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tOSU trademark issues with BP

jwinslow

A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE
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Update: for all of you reading this after the dust has settled, don't get too worked up by these early posts. By the end of this thread we have debunked almost all of their threats, Clarity has shown up and pretty much said this is nothing, and in addition we have a huge asset in our corner in Alan. Just wanting to dissuade any panic you might have when reading this...
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March 1, 2005

Via Federal Express

Mr. Will Bryant
58 Sterling Hill Drive
Jacksonville, FL 32225

Via Email

Mr. Josh Winslow
[email protected]

Dear Messers Bryant and Winslow:

We represent The Ohio State University ("OSU") in trademark and domain name infringement matters, and it is has come to our attention that you are infringing upon OSU's intellectual property rights in your use of BUCKEYE PLANET on merchandise and registration and operation of buckeyeplanet.com web-site.

As you no doubt know, OSU has used various famous trademarks for many years in connection with collegiate sporting activities, including, BUCKEYES, SCARLET and GRAY, the famous BLOCK O, OSU, BRUTUS BUCKEYE, GO BUCKS! and others (the "OSU Marks"). OSU has expended considerable effort and resources to build up goodwill in its OSU Marks and licenses them to authorized producers of OSU products. As a result, these marks have become famous and are relied upon by consumers to identify OSU's products and services.

To ensure that consumers can rely on its marks, OSU actively polices use of its marks on non-licensed products and the Internet. In the past we have been very successful in shutting down web-sites, restaurants and clothing vendors who attempted to trade upon the goodwill represented by the OSU Marks and who used OSU imagery, colors and trademarks to create a false impression that OSU had sponsored or otherwise endorsed their products or services, or who used the OSU Marks to get a free ride and unfairly trade off of OSU's reputation.

Your use of BUCKEYE PLANET on clothing, and your registration and use of the domain name buckeyeplanet.com website to sell items replete with OSU trademarks and traditional colors, has been undertaken with full knowledge of OSU's products and services. Your acts not only infringe upon OSU's rights, but are also likely to dilute the distinctiveness of the valuable OSU Marks, and to confuse consumers into believing that they are going to a website authorized by, affiliated with or otherwise connected to OSU, which is false.

Your actions constitute trademark infringement, dilution, unfair competition, passing off and cybersquatting and under United States federal law, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1114 and 1125. These laws provide for a number of remedies, including injunctive relief, monetary relief that includes recovering defendant’s profits and up to three times the damages sustained by the plaintiff, costs of the action, and reasonable attorney fees.

For these reasons, we demand that you immediately cease all sale of any products containing an OSU Mark or imagery or colors that provide the look and feel of OSU Marks, use of the domain name buckeyeplanet.com and any other domain name containing an OSU Mark, as well as revise any subsequent web-site to remove all OSU Marks and imagery that operate to create a false impression that your products or web-site is affiliated with OSU. We also insist that you advise us of the quantity of products bearing the OSU Marks that have been produced, the quantity that have been sold up to this point, and your profits in connection with such sales, and we further demand that you sign an agreement to refrain from selling any products or offering any services that infringe the OSU Marks, or using any mark, domain name or look and feel of a web-site in the future that is confusing similar to those proprietary to OSU.

Please provide us with your written assurance within three (3) days from the date of this letter, that you will comply with all of the terms of this letter.

If you refuse to cooperate, and force us to pursue this matter through legal means, we will seek the maximum penalties imposed by law, as outlined above. We strongly recommend and anticipate your compliance.

Sincerely,
Brian J. Downey
 
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I really am at a loss for words.

Pretty much I'm hoping they have taken a generic look at this instance and assumed we were a website trying to steal from their trademark and from their "affiliations" for our profit. However we have not produced ANY t-shirts, have not made ANY money, and have contacted them many times about ensuring a license from them.

Please, some legal types give us some help on this crap
 
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Then they'd better take action against Bucknuts.com, too...I'd like to see them take action against me for having my "www.mililanibuckeye.net" site. Besides, your T-shirts had nothing resembling any OSU logo. Fuck 'em.
 
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Are you fucking kidding me? Are they seriously saying that we will have to change the name of the site? Thank god we haven't sold anything yet. I feel disrespected as a loyal, diehard buckeye fan. I can't even talk about that shit anymore. TOTAL BULLSHIT!
 
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does that mean a press pass for the spring game is out of the question?


Is there a disclaimer anywhere that identifies BP as a fan site that is not affiliated with the usual suspects? (YEP - IN BOLD AT THE BOTTOM)

That is how people like TheOSUStore get away with crap.

Can the T-Shirt movement be taken underground and conducted via PM?

Can't the argument be made that since all flavors of Ohio sports (HS,NCAA, and PRO) that the "Buckeye" in Buckeye Planet is representative of the Buckeye State?
 
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put up a banner saying "not affiliated with Ohio State" and be done with it. (edit: I see that that already exists, so... seems to me their on-line investigation team hasn't checked us out very thourougly)

There have been no sales of anything trading off the Ohio State name. Send them a letter, say, you were inquiring about the ability to do so, not that you have done so. Assure them you have not done so. Tell them that BP exists as a fan forum, the same as those run by scout.com and insiders.com (except that ours is not for profit), and has made it clear that it is not for the purposes of profit. The Donations bit on the front page is evidence of that.

Someone needs to get in touch with c-dog. this could be serious.
 
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From what I am reading there, it would appear that they think that BP exists for the purpose of merchandise sales. They may not have even visited the website.

"your registration and use of the domain name buckeyeplanet.com website to sell items replete with OSU trademarks and traditional colors"

The key item here is "sell". It is very difficult to claim a trademark violation against any entity which is not receiving revenue, because there are no "damages".

Maybe a lawyer on here can state it more definitively, but my understanding of this situation would be that so long as this site never sells anything, there's not much actionable.
 
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BrutusBobcat said:
From what I am reading there, it would appear that they think that BP exists for the purpose of merchandise sales. They may not have even visited the website.

"your registration and use of the domain name buckeyeplanet.com website to sell items replete with OSU trademarks and traditional colors"

The key item here is "sell". It is very difficult to claim a trademark violation against any entity which is not receiving revenue, because there are no "damages".

Maybe a lawyer on here can state it more definitively, but my understanding of this situation would be that so long as this site never sells anything, there's not much actionable.
I'm not a patent lawyer, but this sounds generally correct.
 
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someone please give me details about the bucknuts.com t-shirt.

I will formulate an official response and run it by everyone here before sending it back. We have 3 days to respond, no need to be hasty here
 
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