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Game Thread tOSU @ Virginia Tech, Sep 7 2015 @ 8pm ET, ESPN

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cincibuck said:
And it's one week after the game with Michigan State, the game most likely to determine the East Division champion.
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There was talk when the B1G went to 12 teams and a championship game of maybe changing the TTUN game from always being the last game. And since there is a championship game, the TTUN game isn't, in fact, the last game anymore. The only tradition I care about re: TTUN is beating them every year, be it the first conference game or the last.

And re: the East division having the best teams, now that there is a (4) team playoff, that works in the Buckeyes favor re: strength of schedule. Wouldn't be ironic if this year the B1G has two teams in the final four after all the flack/crap the media threw at the B1G last year. And the SEC has no team ~ gasp! Hey, ***if*** Missouri would have beat Alabama last year, the SEC would have been left out of the dance. Oh, the horror!

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And since the Buckeyes also beat 'Bama and the Ducks, that's another feather in Frostburg State's cap! :hoke:

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We now return you to the VT game.

btw, did I mention the Buckeyes are defending/undisputed college football National Champions !!! Sort of rolls off the tongue ...
 
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BUCKYLE said:
The Game should never be played before the final week of the regular season. I understand a CCG was inevitable and it's not going away. I don't like it but I accept it. If they move The Game, I'll lose my [Mark May].
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I remember that Jerry Dinardo made a point years ago that The Game should be moved. I was pissed, but the more I thought of it, it made as much sense as having Ohio State and Michigan in opposite divisions. If you're going to put them in opposite divisions, they probably shouldn't be the last game. But that whole suck-job that was the divisions has been corrected, and The Game should forever and ever be the last game of the regular season.
 
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Zurp said:
I remember that Jerry Dinardo made a point years ago that The Game should be moved. I was pissed, but the more I thought of it, it made as much sense as having Ohio State and Michigan in opposite divisions. If you're going to put them in opposite divisions, they probably shouldn't be the last game. But that whole suck-job that was the divisions has been corrected, and The Game should forever and ever be the last game of the regular season.
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If history means anything then the Big Ten will more often than not have it's championship game played a week before the CCG. That's the problem. Michigan and Ohio State in the same division creates an imbalance and that imbalance is increased when Penn state is added to it.
 
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cincibuck said:
If history means anything then the Big Ten will more often than not have it's championship game played a week before the CCG. That's the problem. Michigan and Ohio State in the same division creates an imbalance and that imbalance is increased when Penn state is added to it.
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If you look back 25 years you'll be hard pressed to find years when Michigan and Ohio State would have played each other in the CCG. As fans we think it would happen every other year but the reality is far different.
 
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cincibuck said:
If history means anything then the Big Ten will more often than not have it's championship game played a week before the CCG. That's the problem. Michigan and Ohio State in the same division creates an imbalance and that imbalance is increased when Penn state is added to it.
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This probably shouldn't be discussed in this thread. But I'd rather The Game be played to see which team gets a chance to play for the championship game, rather than just a game that is played in Ann Arbor or Columbus preceding the one that really counts in Indianapolis.
 
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If history means anything the B1G would still be a 10 er 9 er 7 team conference. Joined the USN in '76 the bicentennial and also the 201th anniversary of the navy. One of "our" slogans at the time was United States Navy ~ 200 years of tradition unhampered by progress!

btw, the B1G was formerly the Western Conference and Big Nine Conference.

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Time marches on ...

p.s. On July 1, 2014, Johns Hopkins University joined the conference as an associate member in men's lacrosse.

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Again, we return you to the VT game.
 
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Says here that The Game has decided the Big Ten Championship 22 times since it was moved to the last game of the season in 1935 game and an additional 23 times it has had a bearing on who won the conference. So in the last 79 years The Game has been The deciding game in the Big Ten Championship about a third of the time and been a factor in deciding the champion 45 times or about 57% of the time.

http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/umosu/osumb10.htm

I really can't believe that Michigan will continue to be a nonentity in the Big Ten football championship picture. I also can't bring myself to believe that Nebraska or Wisconsin or Minnesota are going to form a nucleus that balances Ohio state, Penn State, Michigan and Michigan State. If it means that Ohio State and Michigan meet twice in a year so be it -even if it means playing two weeks in a row -, but putting all the conference power in one division makes no sense to me.
 
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cincibuck said:
I really can't believe that Michigan will continue to be a nonentity in the Big Ten football championship picture. I also can't bring myself to believe that Nebraska or Wisconsin or Minnesota are going to form a nucleus that balances Ohio state, Penn State, Michigan and Michigan State. If it means that Ohio State and Michigan meet twice in a year so be it -even if it means playing two weeks in a row -, but putting all the conference power in one division makes no sense to me.
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As a fellow old(er) fart, you should be very familiar with the importance of The Game and how stupid it is to split OSU and UM apart just to achieve some sort of contrived apparent balance. It was stupid when we had the Leaders and Legends division and it would just as stupid now with the East and West divisions. Ask the SEC if the give a shit whether or not their divisions are balanced. If it means they keep getting team into the national title game (or now, the playoffs), then it benefits them. Besides, Michigan State is a relevant flash in the pan...they have never been and never will be a perennial division/conference title contender...same with Ped State. If is was OK for OSU and UM to be "the Big 2" in the Big Ten like they were from the late 60s through the middle 80s, then I see no problem if it happens again. I can give no shits about how strong the West Division is...
 
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Milli, I'm not in favor of getting rid of The Game, or moving it from the last regular season game slot. - far from it. The conference faced the possibility of an immediate replay of The Game during the Legends and Leaders period and they could do it again. I'm also not against a CCG if it proves something. This year it did. But I don't like a CCG that pits a conference's top team against it's third or fourth best team. Those kinds of games make no sense - beyond revenue - and risk injury in a pointless game.
 
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