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Game Thread tOSU vs. Minnesota, Sat 11/7 @ 8pm ET, ABC

Discussion in '2015 Football Season Capsule' started by MD Buckeye, Jun 17, 2015.

  1. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    The biggest disservice being done to CJ is that he's being pulled for Braxton to run wildcat plays for a 6 yard loss on 2nd down, so CJ has to come back in and clean up the mess on 3rd and 14. It is a travesty and a mockery and a sham. It's a traveshamockery.

    If Braxton is going to take a direct snap he has to either throw or hand off. Direct runs don't work. How many fucking games is it going to take for them to figure it out? What's worse is it kills any rhythm or offensive flow for CJ. Sink or swim with Cardale.

    They've been doing this crap three or four series a game for nine games now, and I can count on one hand the number of times the drive didn't end with a punt.
  2. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    The coaches need to adjust better and we don't have any true deep ball threat at receiver. Our OC adjusted better last year, that is why Cardale looked better. In reality, his stats were not much better than the last couple of games he has started this year. Braxton, Jalin, and Curtis Samuel are all being used in the Devin Smith role, and none of them are really built for it. IMO, if the coaching staff thinks CJ is going to play significant time, they need to implement a package that suits his skill set, and not throw all the wildcat etc., into the plan, which just messes up his rhythm, doesn't fool the other team, and puts him in a hole.
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  3. mattynokes

    mattynokes Junior

    Something tells me that if we were to watch every Krenzel play of 2002, it wouldn't be too different from Cardale. Sure, it was ugly, but holy....we won. I'll take it.
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  4. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    It's not a direct snap he's the quarterback. He has the option to run or throw but I get your point. If they have no plans to throw him then don't put him there...

    They've only done this extensively with CJ at QB though and it's because they need the explosiveness from the QB running the ball. We need to supplement CJ'S shortcomings with things like this to get some kind of system we want to run. Issue is its obvious what we are doing with Braxton when he's at qB.
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2015
  5. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I mean I agree.. given the right system CJ can do well but the problem is he's in a system that just isn't flexible for Pocket QBs.
  6. Mike80

    Mike80 Avenge Woody

    Cardale has the far better arm and Krenzel had far better touch on the intermediate and short throws....I don't know how if they are really comparable though....
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  7. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Took me an extra 10 minutes to clean up all the food stuff I launched in my garage while watching the second half of the game with my neighbors. They got a kick out of it, though...
  8. Bill Lucas

    Bill Lucas Senior

    An observation. People at the game were saying that Cardale was under throwing the deep balls. They weren't under thrown. They were late. Everyone of those throws was where it was supposed to be but he's waiting too long to let it go.
  9. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

  10. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

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  11. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

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  12. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    And my favorite shot of the night

  13. mattynokes

    mattynokes Junior

    I dunno. Zeke stiff arming that guy was pretty good too. I mean, is #31 still alive? But it's nice seeing after as rough as a game has gone for Cardale (and he knows it) to be smiling going in to put the game to rest. Good shots!
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  14. youra6

    youra6 It's not over 9000

    If the receiver has to slow down to adjust to the trajectory of the ball, I would consider that an under thrown ball.
  15. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    I had fun watching tonight's game. I'm not afraid to say it. I'm sick of the COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS SERIOUS BUSINESS crowd setting the terms for reacting to the Buckeyes when they win.

    Earlier today, I saw people react to Dabo Swinney and Clemson fans' unbridled exuberance over beating Florida State. It's as if the act of watching college football has become so divorced from the idea of having fun for some people that they are repulsed when they see other, better-adjusted people taking joy from their favorite team doing something good.

    The best thing from tonight's game was the student section chanting, "I BELIEVE IN CARDALE JONES!" It's more fun to look like a fool in support of the Buckeyes than to be "right" as a cynic.

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