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Game Thread tOSU vs. Penn St. (Dark Night in the 'Shoe) Sat 10/17 @ 8p ET, ABC/ESPN/ESPN2

Discussion in '2015 Football Season Capsule' started by MD Buckeye, Jun 17, 2015.

  1. HorseshoeFetish

    HorseshoeFetish Silver Bullet Supporter

    I thought we were just being respectful at their funeral.
  2. Coqui

    Coqui Senior

    It's OK Penn State. At least you can look forward to another championship in women's volleyball.

    What's that?

    *looks at standings and sees Ohio State in 1st place*

    oops my bad.
  3. scarletngray

    scarletngray Gold Pants

    Post Game Thoughts:
    Cam Johnston was amazing. Kept PSU pinned back inside their 10 yd line numerous times.
    OL did a great job against PSU's stout DL. Some break downs for sure but they more than held their own.
    JT settled any QB controversy IMHO. We are a better team with him behind Center
    Braxton Miller may have the best hands of any WR
    Zeke continues to be the beast
    Glad to see Marcus Baugh making an impact in the run game. Can't wait to see him used as a receiving threat.
    Defense gave up only 10 pts. Ultimately the scoreboard is what matters. Good job keeping the Lions out of the end zone
    Run defense needs to improve. Hats off to Barkley. Dude is a beast but we need to tackle better and stop giving up the big plays.
    Feel bad for CAM. It was not intentional. Injuries, suspensions, etc are starting to hurt us in the back seven.
    I hope Josh Perry heals up quickly and can play this Saturday. Concerned at LB.
    Wish Vonn Bell would talk and showboat less and make plays more. Great player that needs to be better focused.
    Darron Lee has been strangely missing the last couple of games. I hope his injury isn't more serious than we think.
    Joey Bosa may well end up being the #1 Defensive player taken in the draft next year.
    Shutt had a decent game. As did the Diesel.

    GO BUCKS! Beat Rutgers!
    lvbuckeye, utgrad73, Hstead and 2 others like this.
  4. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    Marcus Baugh's holding penalty last night was the first offensive holding penalty against the Buckeyes in conference play since 2013. Yes. You just read that correctly. For all the bitching we do about missed holds on our D-line, the simple fact is that B1G refs rarely call holding on anyone.
    JXC and SEREbuckeye like this.
  5. Zurp

    Zurp I have misplaced my pants.

    That targeting penalty still bothers me. Sorry if this has already been posted, but in order for it to be "targeting", the receiver needs to be a "defenseless player". The rule book defines the "defenseless player" as, among other things, a receiver who is in the act of catching the ball or hasn't had time to "defend" himself. Basically, once he "makes a football move", he is a runner, not a receiver, and no longer defenseless. So he fumbled the ball after being hit - if he was in the act of "making a football move" still, it would have been ruled an incompletion, but it was ruled a fumble. You can't have it both ways. It's either a fumble and no targeting, or an incompletion and targeting.

    Now, I don't know the rule on spearing. Maybe you can call that...
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  6. SloopyHangOn

    SloopyHangOn WhoO WhoO WhoO!

    All of that is fine, but the rule was enforced on the "leading with the crown of the helmet", which was indisputable.

    I think it's a gray area that they've made black and white for the sake of player safety, and this particular instance wouldn't have been looked at twice 5 years ago...

    ...but it doesn't change the fact that it was a clear violation of the rule and the penalty and DQ was warranted by the book.
    Thump likes this.
  7. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    Agree, it was a penalty by the letter of the rule. However, I don't think it should be a penalty by the spirit of the rule. The point is really to protect guys from being speared or caught defenseless, not to outlaw incidental contact when a tackler ducks his head into a ball carrier that also ducks to brace for impact, or as what happened in the UM/MSU game, a LB being thrown face first by an OL onto a pile.

    Since this rule has been implemented I think it's been fairly enforced about one in four times I see it.
    SloopyHangOn and scarletmike like this.

    BUCKYLE Washed

    More than any penalty, he could have hurt himself on the tackle. Always see what you hit.
  9. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    There was no reason for Williams not tackling lower and keeping his head up...none. If you have fairly blatant helmet-to-helmet contact, you gotta flag it. Now, the penalty on Bolden was pure bullshit...but since he's a dick, it's a wash....
  10. SEREbuckeye

    SEREbuckeye "The bag or the bat, Bob?"

    I think the reason for Williams not tackling lower is that he went low at the last second and didn't have time to get in a proper stance. Instead of bending at both the knees and hips and putting himself in a correct stance early on, he just bent at the waist late and it looked bad. It fits the description of helmet to helmet, but to me it didn't look malicious.
    Hstead likes this.
  11. Bill Lucas

    Bill Lucas Senior

    The problem is that in the position he was in if he kept his head up it would have still been a helmet to helmet hit IMO.
    scarletmike likes this.
  12. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    The Buckeyes Play their Best When the Lights are the Brightest


    The Buckeyes like it when the lights shine the bright upon them.

    Since the beginning of last season, Ohio State has played 10 night games and is 9-1 in those contests including Big Ten Championship, Sugar Bowl, and national championship wins.

    “I feel like we know we have a lot of talent, but I feel like when the chips are higher we know we’ve got to step up and we have to play to our ability because it’s win or go home,” wide receiver Michael Thomas said last week.

    “I feel like when the bright lights come on we definitely do play at a higher level but we still haven’t played to the best of our ability.”

    This was the case Saturday night when OSU defeated Penn State 38-10 in front of the second-largest crowd in Ohio Stadium history. While the lights were bright, the players and fans were not, as part of the “Black Out the Shoe” campaign to go along with the Buckeyes’ first ever black uniforms.

    “It was great,” junior safety Vonn Bell said of the experience. “All blackout. First in history. It’s just a very passionate game, great to be around that environment, so it was great. It was fun.”

    Night games always generate a loud and exciting atmosphere at Ohio Stadium as fans have all day to tailgate and get juiced up to boisterously support their team. With the new uniforms and the blackout for the fans, did Saturday live up to the extra hype?

    “Definitely,” senior defensive tackle Adolphus Washington said. “Went out there in the nice uniforms, the crowd was into it, they were in all black also, so yeah, definitely, it lived up to the hype.”

    Entire article:
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  13. Zurp

    Zurp I have misplaced my pants.

    I think just the opposite. It was not a penalty by the wording of the rule. The rule requires that the player be a "defenseless" player - a receiver who hasn't had a chance to defend himself. That receiver was able to catch the ball, tuck it, and turn to face the tackler, with enough time for the referee to call it a fumble. It can't be "targeting" by the letter of the rule based on that. But the referees want to stop letting the players hit other players in the head or neck area. I support that 100%. And from what I know of the "spearing" penalty, I wouldn't mind if that were the call. I don't think "spearing" has an ejection in the punishment, but I'd support any coach who suspends one of his players for tackling an opponent that way. Hopefully Williams and the other players on the team (and maybe EVERY player on EVERY team) will learn from this and tackle more safely.

    That may be the thing I like least about this rule. It's based so much on judgment - way more than pass interference is. Same with that "late hit out of bounds thing". One referee calls it "late". The guy on the other side sees something almost identical and he doesn't call it. That's just how it goes.
  14. JXC

    JXC '01'02'04'05'06'07'08'09'10'12'13'14'15'16‘17’18

    They better figure out how to play during the afternoon since the two biggest games of the regular season will either be at 3:30 or noon.
    Jake likes this.
  15. Zurp

    Zurp I have misplaced my pants.

    Unlike the cultsters, I don't think this play made a difference in the outcome, but on 4th and 2 around the 20 in the fourth quarter, when your running back already has about 170 yards, why the hell do you call a passing play? Did Lane Kiffin decide to donate his time to Penn State? Or maybe he was helping out Ohio State...

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