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tOSU vs. USC in recruiting (split from Ashley thread)

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To those that think we have been getting outrecruited by USC: Look at Walker and Wells. Out of the three recruits we've gone seriously head to head with this year (Gwaltney included), we lead 2 of 3. Not saying we are going to get commitments, but that we lead over uscUM. How about that huh?
 
stadium i understand where you're coming from but we havent "beaten" usc for these guys until we get their officals sigs come signing day. remember last year when dwayne jarett had committed to us for just a couple days before the signing day, but we all know where he's playing right now. leading for a recruit doesnt mean much if you dont get him in the end- in recruiting finishing second is no better than finishing last.
 
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StadiumDorm said:
To those that think we have been getting outrecruited by USC: Look at Walker and Wells. Out of the three recruits we've gone seriously head to head with this year (Gwaltney included), we lead 2 of 3. Not saying we are going to get commitments, but that we lead over uscUM. How about that huh?
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You've forgotten what many considered to be the biggest lose to USC, Sanchez
 
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BuckWrestler141 said:
You've forgotten what many considered to be the biggest lose to USC, Sanchez
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Getting Sanchez outa Cali would have been like Ginn going to USC...it wasn't likely going to happen. I don't really consider it a head to head loss because I think most believed he was going to USC regardless.

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BrowardBuck said:
Getting Sanchez outa Cali would have been like Ginn going to USC...it wasn't likely going to happen. I don't really consider it a head to head loss because I think most believed he was going to USC regardless.

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it had actually been pretty close for a while but most of us forget about it since it happened so early in the process
 
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Sanchez wouldn't have brought new life to this struggling offense like Ginn did. He would have become a great one as the season progressed and the O-line coach changed, but with no run game and no pass protection he would have struggled too.

Ginn got to make plays that relied on a couple of key blocks (or sometimes none, just using pure speed :)).
 
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I appreciate the topic but I am more worried about Michigans recruiting than USC. Michigans recruiting affects OSU alot more than USC and we go head to head with Meshitagain more. I think we are holding our own against USC and Michigan.
 
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brutus2002 said:
I appreciate the topic but I am more worried about Michigans recruiting than USC. Michigans recruiting affects OSU alot more than USC and we go head to head with Meshitagain more. I think we are holding our own against USC and Michigan.
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michigan is not getting many Ohio kids that we are after though. Only Manningham committed to mich. with an Ohio State offer this year. In 2004 it was only Massey that committed with an Ohio State offer. Two guys in two years is phenomenal. Especially when you consider that PSU isn't taking any of our in-staters, and ND has only taken Wilson (maybe). Davis went to SC, but that doesn't look like much of a loss at all.

Tressel has done a great job locking down the state this year and last. For that reason we haven't gone head to head with michigan nearly as much as normal. They're turning elsewhere to get their recruits, or going after those OSU is not interested in (Simpson, Harrison, that punter).
 
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CleveBucks said:
and ND has only taken Wilson (maybe).
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Are we going back more than last year? We did lose Quinn, Burgess, Crable the year before last. Though we hardly lost anyone at all in his first year on the job. If we consider recruiting a 'record' thing, I'd say he's done well as many times as he's beaten Michigan, and I sure love the amount of times we've done that under JT.
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
once again brady was a domer from birth, never had a shot, anyone who tells you differently doesnt know shit. anyone who knows him or a thing about him knows he was und bound all the way, no questions asked.
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It sure did seem like it, and I know I wouldn't be counting him if he were anything but a QB...

Oh and Methomps, are you guys still painting the end zones for Ashley? Throw a sucker a bone here...
 
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I give USC all the credit in the world for the great job of awakening a sleeping giant! The real question for USC is how come it took so long? They are "hot" right now and can just about get anyone they want. Just like Miami, recently!

We, have to find our kind of kids! I'm not sure how to define this. The coaches Know who they want better that any of us fans!
 
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Taosman said:
I give USC all the credit in the world for the great job of awakening a sleeping giant! The real question for USC is how come it took so long? They are "hot" right now and can just about get anyone they want. Just like Miami, recently!

We, have to find our kind of kids! I'm not sure how to define this. The coaches Know who they want better that any of us fans!
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USC had success with OOS recruiting last year, with 3 5* freshman recruits and beating us for all 3. However, too many people use these examples to create a perception that they can get anyone they want from OOS. I am sure if you look at it, they lose just as many as everyone else. You wouldn't think so with how much this has been discussed on Buckeye boards and perpetuated by USC boards. I am not trying to downplay their success as much as critizing the fact that some people think they can do no wrong.

In my opinion, the majority of their success stems from the fact that they are by far the dominant team in California (though Cal is moving up). Couple this with the fact that there is not a Michigan, Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU in an adjacent state AND most players probably prefer play in a league that enables family to see them. They almost get the pick of the litter in one of the best recruiting states. Imagine if there was only one dominant team in Florida or Texas, with only minor threats surrounding. Things may change when/if USC gets challenged by one of the other PAC-10 teams. This is not a backhanded remark about the PAC-10, only my perception that USC is currently head and shoulders above the rest of their conference.
 
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