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  • Does anyone here follow the tropics at all? No I don't mean a global warming/global cooling/whatever else debate type thread, but actually follows the storms and all that?

    The reason I ask is A) I couldn't find a thread about this at all and B) There is a Hurricane bearing down on Hawaii (Flossie with 125 MPH winds) and Tropical Depression 4 in the Central Atlantic, which some models have becoming a strong Hurricane.

    This is a 5 day model below and anything past about 48 hours (it's in 6 hour increments) should be taken with a grain of salt:

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    This shows the current National Hurricane Center forcast for Tropical Storm Dean

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    The current advisory for TS Dean:
    000
    WTNT44 KNHC 161450
    TCDAT4
    HURRICANE DEAN DISCUSSION NUMBER 13
    NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042007
    1100 AM EDT THU AUG 16 2007

    DEAN IS CONTINUING TO INTENSIFY. THE HURRICANE HAS DEVELOPED A SMALL
    CLOUD-FILLED EYE THIS MORNING ON VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGES AND THE
    CIRRUS OUTFLOW IS EXPANDING IN ALL QUADRANTS. SUBJECTIVE DVORAK
    ESTIMATES FROM TAFB/SAB ARE 77 KT...WHILE OBJECTIVE ESTIMATES ARE
    HIGHER. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS RAISED TO 80 KT. AN AIR FORCE
    RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER WILL BE IN THE EYE OF DEAN LATER TODAY TO
    OBTAIN A BETTER ESTIMATE OF THE INTENSITY. WIND AND MAXIMUM SEAS
    DATA FROM NOAA BUOY 41010 WERE CRITICAL FOR THIS ADVISORY.

    THE INITIAL MOTION IS 280/21. THERE IS LITTLE CHANGE TO THE
    PREVIOUS FORECAST REASONING. A STRONG DEEP-LAYERED RIDGE SHOULD
    CONTROL DEAN'S MOVEMENT DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS RIDGE SHOULD
    FORCE THE HURRICANE ON A SPEEDY WESTWARD TRACK THROUGH THE CENTRAL
    CARIBBEAN SEA. MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN CLOSE AGREEMENT ON THE TRACK
    THROUGH ABOUT 3 DAYS. THEREAFTER...AS THE HURRICANE APPROACHES THE
    NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA...MOST OF THE GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT
    DEAN WILL REACH THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AND
    ATTEMPT TO MOVE MORE TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST. GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD
    AGREEMENT ON THIS SCENARIO AS WELL...EXCEPT FOR THE GFDL. IT IS
    STALLING A MIDDLE-LEVEL LOW...CURRENTLY OVER THE BAHAMAS...IN THE
    EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO. THIS SOLUTION ALLOWS THE HURRICANE TO MOVE
    MORE TO THE NORTHWEST INTO THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO. THIS
    SOLUTION IS CONSIDERED AN OUTLIER AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER...THE
    OFFICIAL FORECAST IS NUDGED A LITTLE TO THE NORTH AT 120 HR IN
    DEFERENCE TO THE GFDL FORECAST.

    ALL GLOBAL MODELS ARE DEVELOPING A LARGE 200 MB ANTICYCLONE AROUND
    DEAN DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. IN COMBINATION WITH THE DEEP WARM
    WATER OF THE CARIBBEAN SEA...DEAN IS LIKELY TO BECOME A MAJOR
    HURRICANE IN THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST USES
    A BLEND OF THE SHIPS...LGEM...AND GFDL MODELS...WHICH DEVELOP THIS
    SYSTEM INTO AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE BY THE TIME
    IT REACHES THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA.

    THE NOAA GULFSTREAM-IV WILL CONDUCT A SYNOPTIC SURVEILLANCE MISSION
    FOR THE 17/00Z NUMERICAL GUIDANCE.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INITIAL 16/1500Z 13.7N 54.3W 80 KT
    12HR VT 17/0000Z 14.1N 57.4W 90 KT
    24HR VT 17/1200Z 14.6N 61.4W 95 KT
    36HR VT 18/0000Z 15.1N 64.9W 100 KT
    48HR VT 18/1200Z 15.6N 68.4W 105 KT
    72HR VT 19/1200Z 17.0N 75.5W 110 KT
    96HR VT 20/1200Z 18.5N 82.5W 120 KT
    120HR VT 21/1200Z 21.0N 89.0W 80 KT...INLAND

    $$
    FORECASTER BLAKE

    Advisory Archive
     
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    As of 2300Z (7:00 pm EST, 1:00 pm HST)

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    Last guesstimates are saying it should weaken over the new few days and just miss us to the south. Then again, Iniki back in 1992 did a fricking 90-degree turn north and shot up right between Oahu and Kauai...
     
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    That's the path Iniki took incase people were wondering....

    I think there's a pretty decent chance that this storm will jog a bit to the north of that projected path. It depends on how strong it is. If the storm is stronger, the further north it may go, if it is weaker, the further west it will go.
     
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    BuckeyeMike80;902494; said:
    I think there's a pretty decent chance that this storm will jog a bit to the north of that projected path. It depends on how strong it is. If the storm is stronger, the further north it may go, if it is weaker, the further west it will go.

    Buttflossie had better stay west-bound...if it turns northward and makes me go up on the roof and take down the missle-range DirecTV dishes I just had installed Friday, I'm gonna be highly pissed.
     
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    Good news for Hawaii

    Flossie remains right on the projected path which means the bad part of the storm will pass to the south of the Big Island. It has also weakened to 120 MPH maximum winds.

    TD4 remains a Tropical Depression at 35 MPH winds.
     
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    Check the first post of this thread for an updated model run of one of the main models the National Hurricane Centers use to predict hurricanes.

    Not good for the Florida coast right now but we are still way too far out to say anything for certain.

    I'll try to find animations of other models if I can.
     
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    And right as I post that, NHC upgrades the system...

    WTNT34 KNHC 141433
    TCPAT4
    BULLETIN
    TROPICAL STORM DEAN ADVISORY NUMBER 5
    NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042007
    1100 AM AST TUE AUG 14 2007

    ...DEAN FORMS IN THE DEEP TROPICS...MIDWAY BETWEEN AFRICA AND THE
    LESSER ANTILLES...

    INTERESTS IN THE LESSER ANTILLES SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF
    DEAN.

    AT 1100 AM AST...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM DEAN WAS
    LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 11.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 39.4 WEST OR ABOUT 1030
    MILES...1660 KM...WEST OF THE SOUTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE ISLANDS AND
    ABOUT 1490 MILES...2400 KM...EAST OF THE LESSER ANTILLES.

    DEAN IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 23 MPH...37 KM/HR...AND THIS
    MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 40 MPH...65 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
    GUSTS. SOME GRADUAL STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24
    HOURS.

    TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 35 MILES...55 KM
    MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER.

    ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1004 MB...29.65 INCHES.

    REPEATING THE 1100 AM AST POSITION...11.7 N...39.4 W. MOVEMENT
    TOWARD...WEST NEAR 23 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH.
    MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB.

    THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
    500 PM AST.

    $$
    FORECASTER AVILA
     
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    and for our Hawaii posters:

    WTPA32 PHFO 141202
    TCPCP2

    BULLETIN
    HURRICANE FLOSSIE INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 23A
    NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP092007
    200 AM HST TUE AUG 14 2007 ...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING CONTINUES FOR THE BIG ISLAND OF HAWAII...
    ...A HURRICANE WATCH CONTINUES FOR THE BIG ISLAND OF HAWAII...
    AT 200 AM HST...1200Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE FLOSSIE WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 16.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 153.5 WEST...OR ABOUT 240 MILES SOUTH SOUTHEAST OF HILO...HAWAII AND ABOUT 440 MILES SOUTHEAST OF HONOLULU.
    FLOSSIE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 14 MPH...AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY.
    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 110 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. FLOSSIE IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME WEAKENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
    HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 40 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 150 MILES.
    ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 972 MB...28.70 INCHES.

    THE BIG ISLAND WILL SEE THE ONSET OF TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS...
    39 MPH AND HIGHER...DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANE FLOSSIE
    TUESDAY MID-MORNING. EAST TO SOUTHEAST WINDS OF 40 TO 50 MPH WITH
    HIGHER GUSTS ARE LIKELY AS HURRICANE FLOSSIE PASSES SOUTH OF THE
    BIG ISLAND DURING THE DAY TUESDAY. ANY SHIFT IN THE FORECAST TRACK
    TOWARDS THE NORTH...CLOSER TO THE BIG ISLAND...WILL RESULT IN
    HIGHER WINDS.

    SURF ALONG SOUTH FACING SHORES OF THE BIG ISLAND WILL BE RISING TO 20 TO 25 FT TODAY. SURF ALONG EAST FACING SHORES OF THE BIG ISLAND WILL BE 10 TO 12 FEET.
    HEAVY SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITHIN OUTER RAINBANDS MAY PRODUCE 10 INCHES OR MORE OF RAINFALL IN KAU DISTRICT ON THE BIG ISLAND THROUGH TONIGHT. SMALLER AMOUNTS...5 TO 10 INCHES...MAY FALL ON THE EAST SLOPES OF THE BIG ISLAND THROUGH TONIGHT.
    REPEATING THE 200 AM HST POSITION...16.6 NORTH...153.5 WEST. MOVEMENT TOWARD WEST NORTHWEST NEAR 14 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...110 MPH.
    THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER AT 500 AM HST.
    $$
    FORECASTER DONALDSON
     
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    As of 2:00 pm EST (8:00 am HST)

    000
    WTPA32 PHFO 141747
    TCPCP2

    BULLETIN
    HURRICANE FLOSSIE INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 24A
    NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP092007
    800 AM HST TUE AUG 14 2007

    ...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE BIG ISLAND OF HAWAII...

    ...A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE BIG ISLAND OF HAWAII...

    THE BIG ISLAND WILL SEE THE ONSET OF TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS... 39 MPH AND HIGHER...BY MID-MORNING. EAST TO SOUTHEAST WINDS OF 40 TO 50 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS ARE LIKELY AS HURRICANE FLOSSIE PASSES SOUTH OF THE BIG ISLAND DURING THE DAY TODAY. ANY SHIFT IN THE FORECAST TRACK TOWARDS THE NORTH...CLOSER TO THE BIG ISLAND... WILL RESULT IN HIGHER WINDS.

    SURF ALONG SOUTH FACING SHORES OF THE BIG ISLAND WILL BE RISING TO 20 TO 25 FT TODAY. SURF ALONG EAST FACING SHORES OF THE BIG ISLAND WILL BE 10 TO 12 FEET.

    HEAVY SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITHIN OUTER RAINBANDS MAY PRODUCE 10 INCHES OR MORE OF RAINFALL IN KAU DISTRICT ON THE BIG ISLAND THROUGH TONIGHT. SMALLER AMOUNTS...5 TO 10 INCHES...MAY FALL ON THE EAST SLOPES OF THE BIG ISLAND THROUGH TONIGHT.

    AT 800 AM HST...1800Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE FLOSSIE WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 17.0 NORTH...LONGITUDE 154.4 WEST OR ABOUT 190 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF HILO...HAWAII AND ABOUT 370 MILES SOUTHEAST OF HONOLULU.

    FLOSSIE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 11 MPH...AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY.

    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 110 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. FLOSSIE IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME WEAKENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

    HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 40 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 145 MILES.

    ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 972 MB...28.70 INCHES.

    REPEATING THE 800 AM HST POSITION...17.0 N...154.4 W. MOVEMENT
    TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 11 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...
    110 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...972 MB.


    THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER AT 1100 AM HST.

    $$
    FORECASTER POWELL​
     
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    Google Maps Mania: NOAA Maps Hawaii Tsunami Zones with Google Maps
     
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    Hurricane Flossie projected path and intensity:

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    Tropical Storm Dean projected path and intensity:

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    Typhoon Sepat (pin hole eye and 115 MPH winds for now - be glad you aren't in the Phillipines, this one has the potential to have winds upwards of 190 MPH)

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    000
    WTNT44 KNHC 150254
    TCDAT4
    TROPICAL STORM DEAN DISCUSSION NUMBER 7
    NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042007
    1100 PM EDT TUE AUG 14 2007

    AFTER THE CONVECTION WANED THIS AFTERNOON...A NEW BURST HAS
    REDEVELOPED OVER THE CENTER DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS. DESPITE THE
    SOMEWHAT RAGGED SATELLITE APPEARANCE AROUND 2100 UTC...A QUIKSCAT
    PASS AT THAT TIME DETECTED A RATHER WELL DEFINED CIRCULATION WITH
    BELIEVABLE 45-50 KT WINDS. WITH A NOD TO THE SATELLITE
    PRESENTATION...THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT A POSSIBLY
    CONSERVATIVE 45 KT. RECENT MICROWAVE IMAGERY AND THE QUIKSCAT DATA
    SUGGEST THAT THE CENTER IS SLIGHTLY NORTH OF THE EARLIER ESTIMATES.

    THE INITIAL MOTION IS 270/16...A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS
    ADVISORY. THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY REMAINS UNCHANGED AS DEAN IS
    EXPECTED TO BE STEERED WEST TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD DURING THE NEXT
    FEW DAYS...SOUTH OF A DEEP-LAYER RIDGE. THE MODEL GUIDANCE
    GENERALLY AGREES ON THIS SCENARIO BUT WITH SOMEWHAT VARYING FORWARD
    SPEEDS. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST REMAINS FASTER THAN THE NOGAPS
    AND ECMWF SOLUTIONS...WHICH CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE INITIALIZING THE
    FORWARD MOTION OF DEAN. THE NEW TRACK FORECAST IS CLOSER TO THE
    CONSENSUS OF THE GFDL...HWRF AND GFS MODELS THROUGH 72 HOURS...BUT
    IS A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THESE MODELS AT DAYS 4 AND 5.

    IT APPEARS THAT THE EASTERLY SHEAR THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING DEAN IS
    BEGINNING TO DECREASE. THE GLOBAL MODELS FORECAST A FAVORABLE
    ENVIRONMENT FOR STEADY STRENGTHENING AND THE AVAILABLE INTENSITY
    GUIDANCE BRINGS DEAN TO A HURRICANE IN 36-48 HOURS...AND NEAR THE
    MAJOR HURRICANE THRESHOLD BY DAY 5.

    THE WIND RADII WERE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE QUIKSCAT DATA.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INITIAL 15/0300Z 12.0N 42.3W 45 KT
    12HR VT 15/1200Z 12.2N 44.8W 50 KT
    24HR VT 16/0000Z 12.4N 48.2W 55 KT
    36HR VT 16/1200Z 12.8N 51.7W 60 KT
    48HR VT 17/0000Z 13.4N 55.2W 70 KT
    72HR VT 18/0000Z 14.5N 61.0W 80 KT
    96HR VT 19/0000Z 16.0N 66.5W 90 KT
    120HR VT 20/0000Z 17.5N 71.5W 100 KT

    $$
    FORECASTER BROWN
     
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    Head's Up Texas and Louisiana!!

    000
    WTNT41 KNHC 150234
    TCDAT1
    TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
    NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL052007
    1100 PM EDT TUE AUG 14 2007

    THE AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATING THE AREA OF LOW
    PRESSURE IN THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO DID FIND A SMALL CIRCULATION
    CENTER...BUT IT WAS NOT QUITE WELL-ENOUGH DEFINED TO WARRANT A
    FORMAL VORTEX MESSAGE. SINCE THAT TIME...THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN
    MAINTAINING DEEP CONVECTION TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER...WITH
    SOME EXPANSION OF THE CONVECTION SOUTHWESTWARD. BASED ON THIS
    TREND...I AM PRESUMING THE CENTER HAS BECOME A LITTLE BETTER
    DEFINED AND ADVISORIES ARE INITIATED ON TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIVE.

    THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 305/7. THE DEPRESSION IS SOUTH OF A
    MID-LEVEL HIGH CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. MODEL GUIDANCE
    RESPONDS TO THIS SYNOPTIC PATTERN WITH A FAIRLY STRAIGHT WEST-
    NORTHWESTWARD TRACK. THERE IS CURRENTLY SOME SOUTHERLY SHEAR OVER
    THE CYCLONE...AND GIVEN THE STRONG CONVECTIVE ASYMMETRY...I EXPECT
    SOME REFORMATION OR APPARENT NORTHWARD COMPONENT OF MOTION OVER THE
    NEXT 12-24 HOURS UNTIL THE CENTER BECOMES A LITTLE BETTER DEFINED.
    CONSEQUENTLY...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS A LITTLE SLOWER THAN AND TO
    THE RIGHT OF THE OBJECTIVE GUIDANCE...ESPECIALLY EARLY IN THE
    FORECAST.

    UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE STILL NOT FAVORABLE FOR RAPID DEVELOPMENT...
    BUT LARGE-SCALE MODELS INDICATE THAT THE PRESENT SHEARING PATTERN
    WILL BE REPLACED BY A MORE FAVORABLE FLOW OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO
    AS THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW OVER SOUTH TEXAS MOVES RAPIDLY OUT OF THE
    WAY. THE BROAD CIRCULATION...LIMITED CONVECTION...AND LIMITED
    UPPER-OCEANIC HEAT CONTENT ALONG THE PROJECTED PATH ARGUE FOR ONLY
    MODEST STRENGTHENING. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS IN GOOD
    AGREEMENT WITH THE SHIPS AND GFDL GUIDANCE.


    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INITIAL 15/0300Z 23.9N 91.1W 25 KT
    12HR VT 15/1200Z 24.8N 92.2W 30 KT
    24HR VT 16/0000Z 25.9N 94.2W 35 KT
    36HR VT 16/1200Z 27.0N 96.4W 40 KT
    48HR VT 17/0000Z 27.8N 98.6W 30 KT...INLAND
    72HR VT 18/0000Z...DISSIPATED

    $$
    FORECASTER FRANKLIN


    000
    WTNT85 KNHC 150234
    TCVAT5

    FIVE WATCH/WARNING BREAKPOINTS/ADVISORY NUMBER 1
    NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL052007
    1000 PM CDT TUE AUG 14 2007

    .TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIVE

    TXZ235-236-237-242-243-244-245-246-247-251-256-257-150900-
    /O.NEW.KNHC.TR.A.1005.070815T0300Z-000000T0000Z/
    1000 PM CDT TUE AUG 14 2007

    BROWNSVILLE-TX 26.05N 97.17W
    FREEPORT-TX 28.93N 95.31W

    $$

    ATTN...WFO...BRO...HGX...CRP...


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