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ttun basketball (everybody laugh!)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Basketball' started by NFBuck, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. OSU_Buckguy

    OSU_Buckguy Senior

    she also liked the one below. dammmmmmn. now that's some shade. :lol:

  2. NFBuck

    NFBuck Total Coverage.

  3. OSU_Buckguy

    OSU_Buckguy Senior

    the difficulty with comparing howard to mullins, avery, ewing, etc. is that howard is inheriting a (much) better situation than the others. he's not rebuilding a program. he's not overcoming a scandal. furthermore, the failure rate among college coaches is already high. perhaps a deeper dive in statistics would find that ex-nba guys fail at a rate similar to non-nba coaches. or maybe at a lower rate. or maybe at a higher rate. i really don't know.

    it's just hard for me to look at a rather small group of ex-nba guys and assume there is anything predictive, especially when failure and middling performances are more common than successes for the coaching profession as a whole. what i absolutely would agree with, though, is that nba experience does not, in and of itself, portend college success. that much is for darn sure.

    my only position right now is this: we'll see. i'm not expecting that howard will match or exceed beilein's success, but little else would surprise me.
    Last edited: May 22, 2019
  4. NFBuck

    NFBuck Total Coverage.

    I feel the same, it's a complete unknown. And for a program that fancies itself a top 15 or 20 job, hiring an unknown when your best coach ever left your program in a very good spot is a failure up front. Now, if Howard turns out to be the kind of coach that regularly gets them to the Sweet 16 or beyond, obviously that changes in hindsight. But this is like Matta bolting after 2012 or 2013 and tOSU hiring a total wildcard like Chris Jent.

    Beilein had a system that he developed over decades as a HC at multiple levels that allowed him to identify and maximize the productivity of under-the-radar kids and ride them to some pretty deep tournament runs...even if they took a healthy dose of luck. Howard is an unknown as an X's and O's guy, and as a 5 year nba assistant, he most certainly doesn't have a system. Unless he proves to be a wiz at recruiting, this has REALLY high bust potential. IMO, significantly higher that the chance that he's gonna turn into a top 3 or 4 coach in the B1G. Valenti nails it.
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  5. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    To paraphrase Damon Runyon, Juwan Howard might not fail as the Wolverine coach ... but the smart bet is that he will.
    LitlBuck, buckeyeintn and OHSportsFan like this.
  6. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    Hiring Juwan Howard is a huge gamble for UM. Maybe he will be great, but the odds are that great success won't be sustainable long-term. Obviously his assistant coaches are going to be vital and will play an immense role in determining his longevity. The fact that he is at UM gives him a leg up on the majority of the other former NBA players-turned college coaches. I do not see making a splash hire worth the high risk of failure.
  7. Systems_id

    Systems_id Senior

    SCUM gives a near complete rebuilding job to a person with ZERO HC experience at a supposedly Top 20 basketball school?


    On my knees thanking Jesus right now for Holtmann.
    Last edited: May 23, 2019
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  8. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    If Bron sends his son to AA, just because Howard is at UM, he must have very low regard for all of the more well-established college basketball coaches.
  9. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    Bron is the ultimate front runner. No way he wants his son going to anywhere other than Duke, if in fact he has to go to college in the first place.
  10. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    Jalen Rose is saying on ESPN that the Juwan Howard hire will reunite the Fab 5. I'm really worried now! :rofl:
  11. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    If there's anything more over inflated by a fanbase than being a "Michigan Man", it's the Fab 5. Do their own fans even remember that they didn't win anything? This wasn't the Dream Team. It's nothing like what Duke and Kentucky have been putting together. They wore black socks and called extra time outs. That's it.
  12. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    reunite them for what? Are they going to coach together or something?

    Damn, I sure hope so. lmao.
    buckeyebri, brodybuck21 and DZ83CK like this.
  13. Jagdaddy

    Jagdaddy Senior

    In fairness, their football program is on the edge of a precipice these days.
  14. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    I'm gonna start talking about the recruiting classes of the 90s that gave us David Boston or Eddie George as once in a millennium achievements. Sure they never won titles.....but they wore big shoulder pads!

    Actually.....that is cooler than anything the Fab 5 did. Fuck them.
  15. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    I saw some ESPiN stuff about this on the tv over the bar at lunch. No sound but plenty of grainy video's of the fab 5 and how this might help heal some bad blood within the fab 5.

    Not a lot of discussion, by the looks of it, about the 2019-20 tsun basketball program.

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