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Unborn victims bill

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I enjoy the discourse with Nixon. He/she/whoever forces me to think about other aspects of an issue that I may not have considered before. 69 on the other hand has personally come at me three different time with absolutely zilch intelligence to add to his responses. Three times is not an accident, and there appears to be something about me that bothers him and that he and I will resolve.
 
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I am part of the anti abortion crowd but at the same time I think that everyone is entitled to one thing. I think that everyone has the right to an education, thats about it for older children and adults. As far as children go, I think that social services should play a larger role in determining if the parent is fit to raise the child. If they are not, then the child needs to be relocated.
I also agree that that there are problems at home that need fixed. Nothing pisses me off more than a bunch celebrities having charities that help kids in Afganistan that will grow up and want us all dead.
Lrod, Yikes! Why the threats of bodily harm to 69. If your going to get in a conversation like this, you have to be prepared for people to get emotional. That would be real cool if an OSU fan beat up another OSU fan at the spring game.
 
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Basebuck

This is the 3rd time 69 has responded to me in an ad hominim manner on this general discussion board. I called him on it the first two times, but that didn't seem to work. Since he enjoys the personal attacks, I thought it might be fun to do it face to face.
 
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No physical threats folks. And let's do a better job policing ourselves in here. Politics CAN be discussed, as can hot-button issues like abortions, religion, and anything else we can think of. When this forum gets out of hand, it gives people from other boards with different policies a chance to point their fingers and say "See what I told you all? That's why we don't allow those conversations."

If you can't respect other people's opinions, then just don't post in here. If we have problems, then I'll simply start blocking specific people from this forum. I don't want to do that. We're all adults. We're also at least of the intelligence level that allows us to appreciate that people are capable of individual thought, and forming their own opinions.

There are people as vehemently pro-choice as there are anti-abortion, there are people who are passionate about their religion as other people are about theirs, there are people so thoroughly convinced their political party affiliation is the 'right' one, just like some on the other side of the fence feel about their own.

Threats aren't just an annoyance, they're a potential legal problem for the board. Let's not do anything that has the potential to make me have to shut the whole place down.

Again, police yourselves.
 
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simple answer.....spend x number of dollars on a safe male pill......

second answer...a being is a being...it doesnt matter if its from rape....love....or sitting on a toilet seat.....

it is ridiculous to say that a being created from rape is different than one planned by a loving couple.....they are both living beings ....from the childs standpoint.....
 
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DiHard said:
it is ridiculous to say that a being created from rape is different than one planned by a loving couple.....they are both living beings ....from the childs standpoint
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The two are not the same for the child though. Like I pointed out earlier, the difference arises when Mommy has to explain why Daddy isn't around, and why Mommy looks so sad and scared when she looks the child in the face.

Besides, how can you possibly forsake completely any consideration for the rights of the mother? Have you completely removed her from the process? Every human being has to have some degree of reproductive freedom. It is one of our most sacred rights and responsibilities as humans. Most people exercise that freedom when they engage in consentual sex. For the few who have that choice stripped from them by a rapist, do they just forfeit their opportunity for reproductive freedom?
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A being is a being.
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Whoa! You said a mouthful there! I take it this means you're a vegan? If not, I invite you to take a long, hard look at the reproductive liberties taken with the livestock that feed the people of this world. If you're going to say "A being is a being", I respond by saying that the "liberties" taken with human reproduction pale in comparison with those taken with livestock reproduction.

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George Carlin is one of the wisest men I've ever heard. Here's some of what he has to say on the subject:

"Boy, these conservatives are really somethin', aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn, but once you're born, you're on your own! Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 'nine months'. After that, they don't wanna know about you. The don't wanna hear from you. No nothin'! No neo-natal care, no daycare, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothin'! If you're "pre-born", you're fine, if you're "preschool", you're F'ed!"

"How come when it's us, it's an abortion, but when it's a chicken, it's an omlette?"

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jlb....

you took one of my quotes and pasted it with someone elses to misconstrue my meaning.....

i was simply saying a fetus/being is just that....no matter how it is conceived...

my point is....you cant argue against abortion on one hand....and say, on the other, that if that fetus is conceived via rape (or other means), it can be terminated....

either you believe a fetus/being has its right to live or you dont....there is no gray area....
 
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jlb....
my point is....you cant argue against abortion on one hand....and say, on the other, that if that fetus is conceived via rape (or other means), it can be terminated....

either you believe a fetus/being has its right to live or you dont....there is no gray area....
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This is a total BS statement... nothing is Black & White, especially this portion of this issue. I suppose a victim of rape or incest then is really is too blame for what happened to them.
 
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from the unborns perspective....and as to whether or not it is a life......how it is conceived makes no difference to me....

its either a life or it is not a life at this point.....

im not talking about the right to abort the fetus.....i wont even go into that arena....im simply saying every being is either a life at conception or it is not a life at conception....

maybe it is my wording that is confusing.....its a tough subject to get across on this type of forum.....

in no way do i think a woman should be "forced' to carry a baby to term that was conceived against her will.......
 
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The Life of a person(fetus) should always supersede a persons liberty.
Without the former, the latter is mute.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
The second is contingent on the first and the third is contigent on the second.
I believe that is why the founders worded it in that order.
 
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