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Urban F. Meyer (Former OSU, CFB and NFL coach)

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I'm not surprised by his desire to coach again and take on a new challenge in the NFL. But the use of health problems to retire and then after a couple years jump right back into coaching is odd. I seem to remember him falling to the ground in pain while coaching here. Last time I checked cysts don't disappear in the NFL. Sure maybe the NFL is less stressful in some respects because of no recruiting. But I'm sure to be successful in the NFL requires long hours and a ton of stress. Like others have speculated and said, the driving force of his retirement here seems to be how he was treated over the Zach Smith situation, and I can't blame him for being mad.
 
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Billmac91, don't forget Bill Davis (LB coach). Turned a LB U school into a dumpster fire.....frankly, I don't understand it. UFM's biggest calling card is his ability to recruit talent. In the Pros, you draft 'em, you don't recruit 'em. Also, given his great attention to detail, how's he going to make grown-ass men, making more than he does, get into a four point stance, rather than a three, when that person has made All-Pro for several years? Just don't see it happening. As for pillaging (love that word) tOSU staff, yeah, I can see that happening. Everyone (?) has the ambition to perform on the biggest stage, and face it, the Pros are bigger than college football. Maybe not to you and me, but to the many people that don't owe allegiance to any college. Definitely see tOSU QB coach (Meyer's son-in-law and father to his grandkid), bolting to the NFL. Hartline, maybe. Seem to recollect that he was a serviceable pro, but not an All-Pro. Maybe I'm wrong here. Coach Mick, his skill set could translate to the pros, but (in my humble opinion), his impact on collegiate players is higher than would be on pro level. Pantoni, ahhh, his skill set could translate nicely to the pro level, just not focusing on recruiting, but on the waiver wire, or just plain keeping an administrative touch on everything. Losing any of the above would hurt tOSU. Cripple, maybe, but have faith in Coach Day to go out and pillage (that word again) other college staffs to fill the created voids. Trust and have faith, Buckeye faithful. Go Bucks!
 
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Folks, honestly I’m tired of people freaking out if we lose some member of the staff.. even the “FO” staff like Mick & Pantoni .... if Day and Gene aren’t/weren’t prepared for this to happen I have some serious questions about the leadership and planning of the football team.... none of the guys are sticking around forever ...
 
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billmac91 said:
A LOT of insiders never truly thought health was the driving factor in retirement. They thought it was the excuse the university and Meyer settled on to allow him to continue coaching his last season, and then peacefully transition out under guise of health.

That said....I believe college coaches face far more pressure than NFL coaches. Every game in college is basically the playoffs. Lose a game and ultimate prize is lost.

The NFL has different challenges that are stressful, but for 17 weeks, while the expectation to perform is high, the pressure is nowhere near the level of a regular season college game, IMO.

I actually think Urban is smart enough to make a good NFL coach. He will have to tweak some of his “go to” techniques (the rah-rah stuff isn’t working on grown men making millions) but I think he understands the game at an exceptionally high level, and I think he’s a borderline psychologist. He understands people (players and staff) extremely well and think he has a high social IQ.

I believe he will hire a superb staff (even if we can bang on him for Zach Smith and Greg Schiano).....the overall core of his staff will be solid. I’m excited to see how it plays out.....I’ll def be pulling for the Jags. I want him to be successful.
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Health was used as an excuse at 2 different exits though, no one is going to believe that now. And you’re insane if you don’t think that the NFL is higher pressure. Urban could out talent teams at his last 2 college head coaching gigs, he won’t have close to that talent in Jax, and drafting isn’t near the same as recruiting. And honestly, towards the end of his tenure he became stubborn in his play calling and hiring. His spread option offense is no longer innovative, and DCs in the NFL are very smart and defenses are even more sophisticated. A lot of CFB “geniuses” fell flat due to the large difference in the games(I.e. Saban, Spurrier, Kelly, O’Brien, Kiffin, Petrino, etc). Best of luck like I’ve said to him, but his positives in college, idk will work out as well in the league
 
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Speaking about firing 'em......believe that the only coach (in recent memory), NOT to be fired at tOSU was Meyer. Before Woody lasted over a decade, Ohio State was called 'the graveyard of coaches'. Woody, Earl, Coop, Tress, all got chopped.
 
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My take...

We, as a fanbase thought the fun was over when Tressel was let go. We thought the defense would never be the same when Dantonio, and then Snyder, and then Heacock left. Tom Herman, Chris Ash, Jeff Hafley, Kerry Coombs (the first time), Luke Fickell, hell, there was even some concern when Zach Smith was let go. These are just a few of the many examples that I could come up with. Each and every time, things worked out just fine and in many cases, even better in the end.

If Urban takes the Jax job, and if a few of the assistants go with him, so be it. Good luck to them. Let's regroup and focus on what that guy did well and keep teaching that, while looking for a guy who can improve upon the things that coach did poorly.

In recruiting we always say that tOSU is bigger than any one recruit. It's also bigger than any one coach.

Sure, losing Coach Mick and Pantoni would hurt. They're damn good at what they do, but they've also been at tOSU for what, damn near 10 years? That's a lifetime in today's coaching world. I'm grateful to have had them working for my team and hope their legacy long outlives their presence.

No matter what happens, tOSU will be just fine.
 
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All good points, guys. But welcome to the reality of the college football arms race. We’re in it, and every edge matters. Naturally people are going to be concerned about losing coaches that helped OSU ascend to even further elite national power under Meyer. I’m sure they can be replaced and OSU will be just fine. But the questions are worth asking.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
Folks, honestly I’m tired of people freaking out if we lose some member of the staff.. even the “FO” staff like Mick & Pantoni .... if Day and Gene aren’t/weren’t prepared for this to happen I have some serious questions about the leadership and planning of the football team.... none of the guys are sticking around forever ...
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This is certainly true, and it's just part of the CFB landscape. But it feels like OSU tends to loose coaches a year or 2 earlier than expected and they need every advantage they can to stay at this level and compete with Bama.

Inconsistencies at OC or DC since 2014 have been a big part of preventing OSU from reaching their potential and winning an NC in 3 ('15, '18, '20) years. Plus abysmal recruiting at DB. It's easy to see OSU whiffing on a replacement for Hartline, Dennis or Washington and having it haunt them in 2-4 years.
 
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I think it would be very beneficial for Urban to hire some primary assistants that have NFL experiences; since Urban doesn't have any.

Just sayin': (Seriously) a guy like Bill O'Brien would be a great offensive coordinator for the Jaguars. Stealing a coach out from under Saban's nose would be good thing too.....:lol:
 
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The Jags job is gonna be tough next year, but if you give a good coach 3-4 years, they should be back in the playoffs by then due to the surplus of assets they have right now. That is, unless the QB they draft at #1 is a bust, in which case the cycle of misery will continue. I think the best case scenario is the Jags at 6-10 or 7-9 next year, so the ownership will need to have some patience.
 
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