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pianobuck46
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We probably weren't going to get Patterson anyway. Dabo the used car salesman was working on him way before August. The MSM is trying to make it look like collateral damage, imho.
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like piano said....Kane was likely going to be lost no matter. anything that actually resulted from this was just something different for people to shit on Ohio State for. so this time it was Zach Smith instead of "Urban/Larry Johnson's retiring soon"......makes no difference to me.
from my viewpoint, this whole thing was done to mess with our Texas recruits. Garrett Wilson's twitter account tells me that it missed the mark.
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Hetuck
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Except it wasn't an investigation into possible domestic abuse by a subordinate. It was in response to an answer Urban gave at a press conference about a false report of a felony arrest that never happened, a report published on Facebook based on a single source. OSU already knew about the 2015 incident and that Gene heard about it before Urban did. There were no potential criminal, Titie IX, or NCAA viations. Neither the NCAA nor Federal Title IX officials were interested. The NCAA doesn't have jurisdiction over this sort of thing and if Title IX cared then they'd launch their own investigation, with subpoena power, regardless of what OSU reports.
This "investigation" was motivated purely by a concern over public opinion. They achieved exactly the opposite of their goal of satisfying public opinion about Meyer and his handling of the situation. And then suspending Meyer because he didn't report to compliance something that was originally reported to him by his boss the AD was just for show. And he winds up getting a stiffer punishment than the AD? We look like buffoons. And it just makes Meyer look guilty.
If there had been any chance of criminal, Title IX, or NCAA violations then I agree that an investigation would've been required. But there never was. Once again it's amateur hour in the Ohio State administration. And around the country people believe Urban Meyer covered up a serial wife beater for years and OSU is protecting him because we're just a football factory and all we care about is wins. If you think OSU handled it properly then I couldn't possibly disagree more strenuously.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
I should probably change my password just in case.
We're all @Buckeyeskickbuttocks anyhow... what's it matter?
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This is so much my opinion that I'm not sure I didn't accidentally log in with your credentials in a drunken stupor and post it myself.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Football: Performance reviews highlight Ohio State coaching staff’s 2017 success
Fresh off a Big Ten championship-winning season that ended with a Cotton Bowl victory, Ohio State football coaches were met with largely positive reviews in their performance evaluations, according to records obtained by The Lantern through a public records request.
All evaluations contained both self-evaluations and reviews from the supervisor. For the assistant coaches, head coach Urban Meyer provided comments. For Meyer, athletic director Gene Smith wrote up the evaluation.
Coaches evaluated themselves on a scale of one to five, with one being unsatisfactory, two being needs improvement expectations, three being marginally meets expectations, four being meets expectations and five being exceeds expectations.
Former wide receivers coach Kerry Coombs did not receive an evaluation because he departed the team before it would have taken place. Former wide receivers coach Zach Smith still received an evaluation, with the signatures appearing on June 26. He was fired on July 23.
Urban Meyer
Meyer received a “performance exceeds expectations” under competitive program, a higher rating than he received last year when the Buckeyes made the College Football Playoff.
Athletic director Gene Smith gave Meyer an overall “exceeds expectations” rating, earning top ratings in Commitment to Compliance, Student Athlete Welfare, Leadership and Public Relations/Donor Relations.
“The culture of the football program continued to improve under Urban’s leadership,” Smith said in his evaluation.
Smith said Meyer continued to improve the overall academic performance of the team, calling the team’s 982 Academic Progress Rating a “tremendous accomplishment.” The NCAA uses APR to account for the eligibility and retention of each student-athlete from each academic term.
Of things Meyer needs to improve on, Smith said the head coach needs to help coaches and players align with the expectation of the team and “continue to manage risk areas” specifically in personnel management. Smith also called Meyer to assist with other head coaches in other programs, saying it would “strengthen his leadership presence in the department.”
In his personal evaluation, Meyer said two of the challenges he faced last season had to do with opioids and Title IX, something he said in his 2018 goals to “educate all players” in.
An Ohio State spokesperson told The Lantern that “Meyer self-evaluated that his performance exceeds expectations in student-athlete welfare including graduating players, internships, shadowing opportunities and addressing issues such as opioids and Title IX, and Gene Smith rated Meyer as exceeding expectations in areas that included commitment to compliance, student-athlete welfare and leadership.”
Meyer backed this up in his first press conference since returning from his three-game suspension to start the 2018 season, calling opioids and Title IX two of the four pillars that the coaching staff needs constant awareness in with the players.
Entire article (includes assistant cooaches and links to reviews): https://www.thelantern.com/2018/09/...ight-ohio-state-coaching-staffs-2017-success/
Fresh off a Big Ten championship-winning season that ended with a Cotton Bowl victory, Ohio State football coaches were met with largely positive reviews in their performance evaluations, according to records obtained by The Lantern through a public records request.
All evaluations contained both self-evaluations and reviews from the supervisor. For the assistant coaches, head coach Urban Meyer provided comments. For Meyer, athletic director Gene Smith wrote up the evaluation.
Coaches evaluated themselves on a scale of one to five, with one being unsatisfactory, two being needs improvement expectations, three being marginally meets expectations, four being meets expectations and five being exceeds expectations.
Former wide receivers coach Kerry Coombs did not receive an evaluation because he departed the team before it would have taken place. Former wide receivers coach Zach Smith still received an evaluation, with the signatures appearing on June 26. He was fired on July 23.
Urban Meyer
Meyer received a “performance exceeds expectations” under competitive program, a higher rating than he received last year when the Buckeyes made the College Football Playoff.
Athletic director Gene Smith gave Meyer an overall “exceeds expectations” rating, earning top ratings in Commitment to Compliance, Student Athlete Welfare, Leadership and Public Relations/Donor Relations.
“The culture of the football program continued to improve under Urban’s leadership,” Smith said in his evaluation.
Smith said Meyer continued to improve the overall academic performance of the team, calling the team’s 982 Academic Progress Rating a “tremendous accomplishment.” The NCAA uses APR to account for the eligibility and retention of each student-athlete from each academic term.
Of things Meyer needs to improve on, Smith said the head coach needs to help coaches and players align with the expectation of the team and “continue to manage risk areas” specifically in personnel management. Smith also called Meyer to assist with other head coaches in other programs, saying it would “strengthen his leadership presence in the department.”
In his personal evaluation, Meyer said two of the challenges he faced last season had to do with opioids and Title IX, something he said in his 2018 goals to “educate all players” in.
An Ohio State spokesperson told The Lantern that “Meyer self-evaluated that his performance exceeds expectations in student-athlete welfare including graduating players, internships, shadowing opportunities and addressing issues such as opioids and Title IX, and Gene Smith rated Meyer as exceeding expectations in areas that included commitment to compliance, student-athlete welfare and leadership.”
Meyer backed this up in his first press conference since returning from his three-game suspension to start the 2018 season, calling opioids and Title IX two of the four pillars that the coaching staff needs constant awareness in with the players.
Entire article (includes assistant cooaches and links to reviews): https://www.thelantern.com/2018/09/...ight-ohio-state-coaching-staffs-2017-success/
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I think Kane was likely going to flip anyways, but UFM might have been able to hold onto that one if he's at the helm. In any event, if there was any recruiting damage, I think it's perceived rather than real at this point. It might be a deciding factor for the uncommitted prospects, but that will likely be tough to assess. My best guess is that it likely won't have much of an impact though. Urban is back and recruits will still want to play for him.
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