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USA Today on theOSU

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by jimotis4heisman, Jan 18, 2005.

  1. i know weve seen variations of this, but im going to put it in here anyways

  2. BIATCHabutuka

    BIATCHabutuka out of chaos comes playoffs

    definitely a rerun like you said, but these brand comments do need to be put out for as many to hear as possible. if the NCAA president thinks we are clean why should recruits think anything different.
  3. Buckeye513

    Buckeye513 Stable Genius

    I don't see this one all over ESPN. :roll2:
  4. espin was the first to have the article that i saw...oddly enough
  5. Heater

    Heater Newbie

    This will blow over (for the football team)

    I don't see anything coming of the football cloud right now. Not unless something arises that we are unaware of right now.
  6. BrutusBobcat

    BrutusBobcat Icon and Entertainer

    Seeing as how we've been subjected to months and months of "Ohio State is a dirty program", I am more than willing to read articles like this until at least the opening kickoff of next season.
  7. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    Somebody did post something off ESPiN when Brand made these comments. However, there is a substantive comment difference. This release makes the point that most of the allegations already had been refuted by NCAA investigation.

    I am very encouraged by this coverage. Barring any more crap, I think we have seen the bottom of the curve. We mustn't underestimate the revulsion Andy Geiger's resignation will have caused in ADs around the country.
  8. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    ESPN did much the same thing (trying to CREATE news) with John Abraham (DE) of the New York Jets this past week.

    Mike Golic, Mike Greenburg, and Mark Schlereth were bad mouthing Abraham on the radio because he wasn't "playing hurt" and "taking one for the team." Schlereth went on to brag about his 28 or so surgeries and the "analysts" went on to say that comments that Abraham made about this being a contract year should be construed as he doesn't want to risk further injury and endanger the big contract that awaited him instead of giving his all and playing for his team.

    Mel Kiper went on with this story over the weekend and was talking to John Clayton and Clayton blasted the story. He said that he didn't understand where all this was coming from because he spoke to the team doctor and the doctor said the Abraham was simply "physically unable to perform." He basically undermined everything that the heads at ESPN had been saying. Kiper tried to rescucitate the story by saying "Aren't you giving Abraham a free pass here?" Clayton replied, "I'm giving him a pass because he physically can't play the position. What do you want him to do?"

    That is the last that this was mentioned on the TV or Radio shows.

    Burn in Hell ESPN.
  9. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    I've been slow to react to ESPN mostly because I don't watch much of it. I catch a few minutes of Game Day just before the Bucks kick off and maybe a half hour to catch scores from other games. I finally started watching their week day shows while I run on the elliptical machines. What I've come to sense is that they've got a content and interest sustaining problem. You burn up a LOT of content when you're on the air 24/7. You have to keep changing the content to keep folks from surfing and you have to keep grabbing their attention by playing to their fears and prejudices... not unlike talk/shock radio. Creating a mountain out of a mole hill is nothing new to broadcasting and as we've seen this year, putting rumors out ahead of research is good for business. Teams like the Buckeyes develope huge followings and a good portion of those followers are there because they want to see something bad happen to the program. I'm the same way. I follow Notre Dame in the hope that they'll loose (it's been a good year) and any story about "probelms" under the Dome gets my attention. ESPN pulls in both sides, lovers and haters, when they throw out their unsubstantiated stories... oh, and doing research, finding out if a story is true is expensive. Why spend money if you don't have to? Just call it someone's honest opinion and let the buffalo chips fall where they may.
  10. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    I loved how the entire media made a big deal of what Indianapolis kicker Vanderjagt said before the NE game. if you actually looked at what he said, he didn't say anything at all. Just saying that NE could be beaten and was "ripe for the picking". this is what constitutes a guarentee these days? :shake:
  11. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    Forgot all about that one.

    They went on and on bashing kickers and calling them "non players that should keep their mouths shut."

    Then they quoted what he said and I was kind of let down.

    He didn't say anything, but they went on for 10 minutes about how he had given the Patriots some type of motivation that they wouldn't have had otherwise.

    It's just amazing.
  12. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    I wonder if ESPiN is motivated by reducing the cost of researching stories? I suppose its possible but I think it is a conscious decision to create a unique blend of entertainment and sports. That is actually a good thing and, up until a couple of years ago, I quite liked watching their programming.

    The problem that I have with ESPiN did not begin with the tragic dance around the "where's the money, Mommy" strategy. I simply started to get annoyed with the constant ill-formed opinions that were foisted on viewers as truth. Entertainment content, actually sensationalized entertainment content, started to overwhelm news and become really annoying. Everything was reduced to black and white, good cop, bad cop and one couldn't any longer feel that the news and views were being presented factually.

    The Clarett affair has illustrated painfully to Buckeye fans just how ethically bankrupt the ESPiN strategy is. ESPiN's problem is that they have to keep moving on and finding new "scandals" to keep the model alive, as some of the examples in this thread show.

    ESPiN needs to go back to the drawing board and explore this business model. One could argue that ESPiN would benefit greatly by asking a media consultant to explain media dependency theory. Avoiding the academic jargon, the theory says that people depend on the media to help construct their identity and meaning in life. The more gratification of one's central needs, the more important media becomes and the more it is consulted. However, if media is at variance with central needs and values, it becomes less important, less trusted and less frequented. Hence, the theory would predict that the more important being a Buckeye is to a fan, the less likely that the fan wil visit ESPiN, believe ads flighted on ESPiN or buy products associated with ESPiN.

    ESPiN seems to believe Marshall McLuhan's assertion that the media is the message. McLuhan didn't mean that media is all-powerful or central. In that sense, the media isn't the message. People are becoming more critical every day in the way that they perceive media.

    Are you a Buckeye? Whether you answer yes or no, you still illustrate the importance of Buckeye sports as an element of who you are and the things you consider to be important and meaningful things in your life. If you are a Buckeye, like to do a lot of shopping in Michigan? Think about Woody and the empty gasoline tank. Social identity is a strong determinant of media usage and consumer behavior, as witnessed by hundreds of research studies.

    The ESPiN strategy will get short-term attention from viewers by attacking issues, teams and players, but at the same time the theory holds that an attack such as we have endured is an attack on the very issues, teams and players that Buckeye fans consider to be important in their lives. OSU and UM fans will tune in, for different reasons, but everyone will sense the lack of fairness and honest reporting.

    ESPiN would be very wise to apologize and help the Buckeye athletics overcome the damage they have done. The NCAA report will be a final time to say, hey folks, we're very, very sorry. The Smith debacle was only a temporary reprieve for Friend and the other professional journalists at ESPiN. Each story, like this one at USA Today, will call the integrity of ESPiN into question. The disgusting indecency with which they attacked tOSU will become a scar that haunts their integrity for a long time unless they apologize at their earliest opportunity.

    They also would be wise to revisit their business model, which looks to be fatally flawed in the light of what I am posting here, while they still have such a good competitive position in the electronic sports marketplace.

    I like the fact that BP has such an extensive archive facility. In a few years time, we'll be able to revisit these discussions and discuss the survival or demise of ESPiN in college sports.

    It's hard to predict what will happen at ESPiN but one could guess that they probably won't heed the "broadcast rights dissipation light" blinking in their eyes and they will continue down the road they are on, having to become more and more sensational. They'll lose us and a few other major programs and then increasingly be marginalized over coming years. If it does indeed go this way, we'll see them disappear from college sports.

    Seem impossible? Remember when the three networks ruled the roost and laughed at CNN? The seeds of tomorrow always exist in today.
  13. BuckeyeInTheBoro

    BuckeyeInTheBoro This space left intentionally blank

    Somebody hook that boy up with a "Great post" award!
  14. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    my favorite part about that whole thing was the patriots dismissing what he said because "he's just a kicker". excuse me dipshits....the SB ring you stole from the raiders and the one given to you by the panthers were both won by your kicker.

    aside from the fact that he shouldve never gotten a chance to kick it, the kick against the raiders in the snow is probably missed by any other kicker in the league more often than not. he also nailed the 2 game winners in the SB. but vanderjagt is "just a kicker". fucking ingrateful retards.
  15. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    Both you and Sloopy45 have something in whine when you don't get your way.


    One of the greatest moments in NFL history. :slappy: :slappy:

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