USC/Tenn Recruiting and Ethics

[osugrad21]

I'm not saying your friend is lying, but I find that type of blatant debauchery hard to believe. A staff would be beyond insane to try something like that...especially with a recruit.

 

[BB73]

Besides USC and scUM, what other traditional power actually rivals our consistency in recruiting year in and year out?

Miami? Believe it or not, football was played before 1983.

FSU? Bowden is slipping without his arsenal of bright young coaches.

Bama? Still staggering from violations but slowly regaining form.

PSU? Best class in a few years, but not good enough to return to prominence.

Nebraska? 5-6 this year with a few more years to get the personnel needed for Callahan's scheme.

Florida is a real possibility to become a power, but Urban has to prove he can survive the toughest conference in CFB.

I'll take our consistency every year over some flash in the pan roller coaster ride of a program.

Just my opinion though.

I would say Oklahoma.

But I really like the fact that Notre Dame doesn't even have to be considered at this point. Except by 20 of your cousins.

 

[BuckeyeLuvChild]

osugrad21- Meh. I found and find it difficult to believe myself, thus the word allegedly. Just floating out what I've heard from a Tenn student on a track scholarship. Like it or gravy lump it, doesn't effect me in any way. :)

 

[osugrad21]

osugrad21- Meh. I found and find it difficult to believe myself, thus the word allegedly. Just floating out what I've heard from a Tenn student on a track scholarship. Like it or gravy lump it, doesn't effect me in any way. :)

Agreed. Its not about believing you, its about believing your friend...which I don't choose to do

 

[PlanoBuckeye]

For the past few years, USC has been amazing in recruiting...obviously. Schools like Tennessee, Texas, Iowa, etc will find an amazing class every few years or for a period of a few years. However, there is something to be said for consistency.

Texas has had consistency for several years now including the Machovic years when Priest Holmes and Ricky Williams were in the same backfield. Consider the fact that they have had a 1000-yard rusher every year for the last 7 years with Williams and Benson. Like him or hate him, Mack Brown does a great job getting almost everyone he wants. The recruiting pressure in this state is at least equal to Ohio and Florida.

 

[osugrad21]

Texas has had consistency for several years including the Machovic years when Priest Holmes and Ricky Williams were in the same backfield. Consider the fact that they have had a 1000-yard rusher every year for the last 7 years with Williams and Benson. Like him or hate him, Mack Brown does a great job getting almost everyone he wants. The recruiting pressure in this state is at least equal to Ohio and Florida.

Very true...but then again, would they be considered a perennial power? Opinions would vary there...

 

[Wingate1217]

I would come down as them being an annual power as they I believe won about 90 games this last decade for over a 70% win rate. They have at least two NC that I can remember and a couple of Heismans. I don't know were they rank in total victories or % but I got to believe they are in the top ten.

I would agree compared to tOSU they do not have a leg to stand on.

 

[wadc45]

I would come down as them being an annual power as they I believe won about 90 games this last decade for over a 70% win rate. They have at least two NC that I can remember and a couple of Heismans. I don't know were they rank in total victories or % but I got to believe they are in the top ten.

I would agree compared to tOSU they do not have a leg to stand on.

I look at it this way, which is probably the least fair towards UT...how many Big 12 titles has Mack Brown won?

Whether or not he is able to hold onto Perilloux may define this year's class...

 

[PlanoBuckeye]

I am not a Texas fan; I am only answering your question. They've won 70 games in the last 7 years with several Top 10 finishes and no season with less than 9 wins. That's not bad - most schools would trade. We have our NC and JT; Brown has OK. Until UT beat scUM the UT fans compared Brown to Cooper. Unfortunately the joke in Texas is the Longhorns are undefeated against scUM and have won as many Rose Bowls in the last 20 years as we have. I have to live with them and my son is a Longhorn. He grew up a Buckeye fan, knows all the songs, loves Script Ohio, and went with me to the OSU-UI game when Eddie went for 300 yards. We'll both be at the Shoe in September.

 

[osugrad21]

I am not a Texas fan; I am only answering your question.

I'd never accuse you of that

Was just spurning the conversation bro...nothing more.

 

[souL]

Don't be an idiot. If you think that Tressel is 1/100th as bad as fatass Fulmer, then slither your ass back to Bucknuts. Ya feel me, slick?

First and foremost, Mr Than Thou, I left BNuts before all that shit w/ you and everyone else happened, I saw the signs. I couldn't read a post without wondering if Buck nation had lost their collective heads. Wouldn't have found this site if I didn't do some random searching one day. I'd rather have a UM helmet tattooed on my dick than go back there.

Second of all, didn't I didn't outright say I thought Tress was worse than Fulmer, I did begin that sentence with "Not saying it's Tress's fault..." I simply can say I have no clue about what goes on behind the scenes in OSU country, or Tennessee country. For that matter, can you? Do you watch Phil give handouts? Does your 24 hour watch of Jim Tressel prove he is indeed angelic? WHILE I'M AT IT, I'LL STATE MY PERSONAL BELIEF THAT JIM TRESSEL HAS CLOSE TO THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM INVOLVEMENT A COACH CAN HAVE IN THE RECENT STATE OF AFFAIRS. It's not that, it's the fact that I can't say anything about Phil. I guess I'm just the kind of guy who doesn't enjoy spouting my perceptions as facts. It also gets irritating to see a person that, when their opinion is challenged, does nothing but fling baseless insults and later in the day chide someone else for doing so. YOU feel ME, slick?

[edit:add]Look the point of the 'pot...black' comment was, how do you think other programs view us? I mean, I remember who gave me the initial impression that the Tennessee program had committed recruiting violations. ESPN. I'm just saying, it's all perception, and the same perception that ESPN projected upon Tennessee they're now projecting upon us. [/edit:add]

Oh8ch, not to get technical but I did say 'under heat'. I know it's no one official and ESPN can't do anything, but if the largest sports-news company in the world begins attacking the credibility of your program, would you call it sufficient heat? If it's one thing I can do a lot like Jim Tressel, it's choose my words carefully.