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Voting, another rant...

Basebuck

In Texas..
I have been giving alot of thought to the voting advertisement on such stations as MTV and other sources. My question is this, why should someone be talked into voting when they do not know anything about the candidates or topics of interests in their campaigns? I'm sick of talking to people who fully support a candidate or issue, whether it be local or national, without any knowledge of what is going on. Why should these people be encouraged to vote when they do not have the intellect to make an educated decision?
It just seems to me that many who vote just go ahead and vote straight ticket accoding to whatever demographic they belong to. This annoys me to no end. I remember when I was growing up my parents would never tell anyone who they voted for because they considered voting a private issue. Each candidate stands for different things that hold a different level of importance to each individual.
 
Speaking of voting, I don't Like Kerry or Bush, I think Nader is getting my vote.

Because of something Nader stands for or just because he's not Kerry or Bush? I'm just curious, I really don't know much about Nader's politics.

What's your beef with Kerry and Bush? Specific issues or general "they're slimy politicians" stuff.

I'm not crazy about the choice myself, but I line up with Bush on way more issues than Kerry so while I disagree with Bush on some pretty big issues he will still likely get my vote.
 
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BuckeyeInTheBoro said:
Because of something Nader stands for or just because he's not Kerry or Bush? I'm just curious, I really don't know much about Nader's politics.

What's your beef with Kerry and Bush? Specific issues or general "they're slimy politicians" stuff.

I'm not crazy about the choice myself, but I line up with Bush on way more issues than Kerry so while I disagree with Bush on some pretty big issues he will still likely get my vote.


Actually, I guess I should just not vote since I don't specfically know Nader stands for other than his $10.00 minimum wage :biggrin:. Specific beef with Bush: Just not intelligent enough to run the country, I don't like the way the economy is going, but I do support his decisiveness on military. Kerry: Against Gay Marriage (as is Bush), a rich Democrat (whom I don't think will look out for our, the democrats, best interests), which i consider myself, and I don't like his supposed stance on the military.
 
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Hubs,

Thanks. I was just curious if you actually knew anything about Nader. He might have some great ideas, but he sure isn't getting any of them out there where I can hear them.

FWIW, I consider myself a moderate although I often find this means I'm liberal on one issue and conservative on another, not really in the middle on too many issues. I am definately an independent however... one of the few people that voted for Clinton twice and Bush once (likely twice). I also like to have the House or Senate controlled by a different party than has the whitehouse... I'm for stopping the pendulum in the middle instead of over-reacting.
 
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The other day my wife and I were talking about this, and she said that this election will be decided by the stupid people. I think she's right, and that's why you see so much push to get people who are uninformed to vote.

People who don't know any better are going to believe whatever you tell them, and/or vote for whoever seems the most popular. So, the more the democrats rip Bush on every little thing, the more the uninformed begin to view him in a negative light (without anything to back it up), the more support you'll get for Kerry. If you dont' know what to do, what do you do? You look for someone to tell you what to do. That's what they're trying to accomplish.

Disclaimer: This works both ways, to be fair. I only picked Kerry because I don't like him, but the Republicans are doing it too.
 
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Of course the election will be decided by the stoopid people. that's because most people in this country are stoopid. Look at the polls where 60% of the people believe Iraqis were on the planes that attacked the Twin Towers. If you are this ignorant about the biggest event of the last 50 years, you're a moron.
 
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I agree with your point.

In California they are going to let teenagers vote in State and Local elections so that teachers can mold the students to vote the way that they think is best.

I think there are a lot of bad ideas out there, this is one.

Seriously though you should have to pass an IQ test in order to vote.

Basic math

Basic history

Basic reason

However if they did this the Dems would loose too many voters who just want their welfare checks to go up, or a Government job so they don't have to really work.
 
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eh.. i voted for nader last time.. i didnt like bush or gore.. i knew nader wouldnt win but i was hoping to get a third party to get enough votes that they would have to be recognized.. this year i am voting for kerry.. i dont nessesarily like him but i dont dislike him either.. nader is back but he almost seems like he is being a whiney bitch bout it this time.. and i HATE bush.. so.. unless nader gets close enough to bush that he has a chance there is no way im voting for anyone but kerry.. hubbard if i was you i wouldnt decide till election day, watch the polls and see if nader even has a shot at being significant.. if not why vote for him?
 
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I heard last election that Nader wanted to implement a tax of 100% if you made anything over $500,000 or so. After listening to him on some of the other issues he seemed loopy enough to have views like that so I never confimed if that was true.
Anybody know?
 
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