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To be honest, that number depends on whether or not it's a legit lift. I see so many kids at the gym not getting deep enough and claiming exaggerated lifts. When I was in high school, we only had one squat rack that had a fixed depth. If you could touch the rack and get it back up, that's what weight you had. It was totally bogus. The guy that had the school record of 510 was only 5'6". How is someone 6'2" (myself) or taller supposed to get to the same fixed point as someone only 5'6"?
 
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How do you adjust numbers based on position and size? That's like giving a pitcher a .300 batting average even though he hits .100 because he's a pitcher.
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I didn't say I agreed with it...but I am fairly certain JT made such a claim when these photos went public becasue some of them were a little outrageous. I think it even led to a new board that categorizes the players into different categories, or the marks are now tracked by position or something.

I'll look around and see if I can find this info.
 
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I have read somewhere that OSU rarely actually has players do a max lift and that the numbers on the board are projections based on pretty widely used tables equating x number of reps at a given weight to a projected max. OTOH, I have read several posts discussing Kudla actually doing a max bench.
 
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NavyBuck said:
I have read somewhere that OSU rarely actually has players do a max lift and that the numbers on the board are projections based on pretty widely used tables equating x number of reps at a given weight to a projected max. OTOH, I have read several posts discussing Kudla actually doing a max bench.
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I don't know much about lifting so I have no idea how large of an "adjustment" this represents. Maybe it makes very little difference, but this is exactly what I was talking about earlier in the thread.

Taz, thanks again for keeping us informed. I can only imagine how exciting and nerve racking your recruitment must be and I appreciate getting an insider's perspective. Best of luck!

GO BUCKS!
 
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I remember Branden Joe ripped his Pec by benching something over 500lbs, I believe he was going for a max. So, I infer that they sometimes do this, but it is really dangerous and I would hope the coaches minimize the attempts.
 
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I remember Branden Joe ripped his Pec by benching something over 500lbs, I believe he was going for a max. So, I infer that they sometimes do this, but it is really dangerous and I would hope the coaches minimize the attempts.



Joe ripped his pec going for his 5th rep of 485.
 
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Either way ripping a pec definitely doesnt sound like fun. I dont really see the point in maxing out on the bench, b/c one rep doesnt do anything- its just to really break a record and impress people, but isnt going to make you stronger. I mean you can just use the calculations they have to get a pretty accurate max estimate if you want to talk to your friends about it.
 
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OSU Rob said:
...one rep doesnt do anything- its just to really break a record and impress people, but isnt going to make you stronger...
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As someone who has been lifting for nearly 30 years, I can tell you that single-rep maxes do indeed increase your peak strength. I've seen plenty of body builder guys who use high-rep low-weight routines to gain size and also to rip...even though they can do as many lower-end reps at, say 185, as I can, my maximum bench is greater than theirs because I will pyramid up to and down from my max, while they never approached their max in their workouts. Muscles have both endurance and strength factors, and you need to work both. Even though the calculations are very accurate in determining what you max should be if you can do a given amount of reps at a given weight, you still don't realize your maximum strength potential if you don't approach your max in your workouts.
 
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using low rep high weight exercises definately can increase peak strength. the key is to cycle that with high rep low wight workouts intermittently to maintain some degree of muscular endurance for that particular exercise.
 
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Certainly the pyramid is the superior strength building exercise structure, not only because it incorporates both endurance and power elements, but also because it allows you to stretch and increase blood flow to the muscle in the early sets, rather than jumping right into the heavy weight sets. However, you wouldn't do it like that if you were trying to max out. In that case, you'd do one set of very light weight, just to stretch the muscle and get your blood flowing, but without causing signficant fatigue, and then go right at your max target weight. Otherwise, you're eaither going to tire yourself out before maxing, or set yourself up for an injury.

edit: I wouldn't really consider the occasional maxout to be something you do to impress people, but rather something you do to gauge your progress. But it is a measurement exercise, rather than a strength-building routine.
 
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