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Who is your least favorite Buckeye of all time (not counting MoC)?

How about you get over yourself. I like Nate Clements and I have every right to defend him.


If I was an Ohio State football player and I saw myself being roasted as a "least favorite Buckeye", despite being a 2 year starting cornerback and a good punt returner, followed all the rules, am having a great NFL career, because I screwed up one time as a freshman by not getting out of the way of a punt, I would feel very bitter against fans like you. You demand perfection. I don't. Get over yourself.
 
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good to see me and you can agree on SOME things nixon, it really bothers me that this thread even exists.. we are supposed to be buckeye FANS not critics.. if all of the fans dispensed as much hate as some of the ppl on this board i cant imagine why any player would want to come here..
 
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Yeah, maybe VR stated it better than I did. I do not agree with this thread either, but damn Nixon, it sure seems like you get fired up anytime anything negative is said at all. Just because they are Buckeye's doesn't make them unimpeachable.
 
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FKAGobucks877 said:
damn Nixon, it sure seems like you get fired up anytime anything negative is said at all. Just because they are Buckeye's doesn't make them unimpeachable.

You're damn right that I personally have a problem with somebody saying Steve Bellisari or Stanley Jackson is one of their least favorite Buckeyes because they were bad. Ok, let's say they were bad(I personally think Jackson was better than people give him credit for). Is it their fault the coach recruited them, played them, or didn't have a better alternative? They played for our team, we should support them(ESPECIALLY when it comes to what they do on the field). Then we have somebody justifying Tibor's dislike of Clements. Now, mind you, I still wouldn't like this if he referred to off the field stuff(and personally, I'd love to spit all over that stupid W myself). But I find it particularly revolting when the fact that he muffed a punt one time is used as a justification for him being somebody's least favorite player. And I don't give a damn if you like that response from me or not. I don't like people ripping on Nate Clements and Steve Bellisari.

And it is also another thing to say "Clements screwed up by muffing that punt". Fine. But to personally dislike him because of it? As if he did it on purpose? I find that revolting. I agree with BuckeyeSoldier's comments on this.
 
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I'll give you that, this particular thread is a load of shit. I just seem to have noticed that you've gone a bit overboard lately with the defense of the players. I can see where you're coming from as far as this thread goes, but it's more than that. To each his own....
 
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It just seems a little silly to be getting so riled up over this. The thread definitely isn't positive or constructive per se, but isn't it more or less harmless? Nobody's crucifying these guys - they're just pointing out that there are players that are lower on the 'popularity scale' than others. I mean really, who do you like more? Archie Griffin or Marco Cooper? Mike Doss or Nate Clements? To suggest that they all deserve equal applause and respect is asinine. Tyson Walter sued LeCharles Bentley - dragging both their names and the University's through the mud - over a punch in the nose. Him, or Orlando Pace? I will definitely agree that it's not really a 'cool' thing to do to just overtly shit on specific players for their various mistakes or poor play, but if we can't be honest about these types of things, then what will we ever have to talk about? There will always be criticism. Some of it will be warranted, some of it will be unwarranted. When the latter is the case, you should feel free to come to a specific person or player's defense. As far as finding some sort of 'cruelty' or 'evil' in the very mention of criticism...again. Just plain silly.

The only other comment I have is about this:

BuckeyeSoldier said:
if all of the fans dispensed as much hate as some of the ppl on this board i cant imagine why any player would want to come here..

...I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here. Most players don't care to use the internet for anything other than IMing girls, and those that do aren't usually on long enough to browse around fan sites doing searches for their names. Every athlete on the planet who's good enough to garner attention from fans and media knows that they are going to have some detractors. In my experience, they appear not to give a shit, and are far more concerned with what their coaches and fellow players think about them. Anyone who thinks Nate Clements and Tyson Walter are lurking in the shadows shedding silent tears over these comments needs a pretty severe reality check.
 
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I am not going to mention any names, but there were a couple of players in the outback bowl against south carolina (the year cooper got canned) whose actions on the field were rather pathetic(cheap shots, late hits, etc..). I still remember that game as a low point in buckeye football and hope that crap never happens under JTs watch but a certian CHOKER in the wisky game proves it can happen anytime.
 
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vrbryant said:
Mike Doss or Nate Clements? To suggest that they all deserve equal applause and respect is asinine.

I don't have a preference for Doss over Clements other than that Doss stayed for his senior year. I have no reason whatsoever to dislike Nate Clements. I find the fact that this question is asked as if no reasonable person could be a bigger Clements fan than Doss fan particularly amusing.

No one is suggesting that they like all players equally. But there is no need to attack them, especially for on the field stuff(ala Jackson and Bellisari).

As for Marco Cooper and guys like that, the starter of this thread was not choosing people by criminal criteria, because Nate Clements is not a criminal.

"Anyone who thinks Nate Clements and Tyson Walter are lurking in the shadows shedding silent tears over these comments needs a pretty severe reality check."

Nobody is suggesting that Nate Clements is crying over this, but if Nate Clements knew that he had all these Buckeye fans who hated him, I could see why he might not be all gung ho about OSU. Of course, if Clements was embittered by fans' attacks on him, and said he didn't care about Ohio State, then he would really get it. I could not blame him. If a player dares to say anything negative at all about OSU, it is open season on him. But its alright if the fans constantly say negative things about him before he opens his mouth.

And the fact is that this thread was started by someone who 95% of the time says only negative things cannot be ignored. This is an "Ohio State fan" saying we deserved to lose to Minnesota as if it was some kind of divine judgement or something. Do you see why some people might find this charachter and his topic insulting? Probably not. Let's roast Bellisari some more, shall we?
 
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vr....heres a list of posters to this site who have said that they have first-hand knowledge that players and players parents do indeed read these boards.....

clarity
dihard
oh8ch
cleve
vlmarti
and i believe hh

however; if you want to take a stab in the dark and say that they dont read these forums thats good enough for me.....[sarcasm]

that is the reason i dont like these "most hated"...."least liked" threads....these are kids who are doing their best....
 
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