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Why does Big Ten football suck?

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scarletngray said:
Let me try to answer this question from a philosophical perspective:

A wise person once said, "to suck or not to suck, that is the question."

Suckage, in it's most basic sense, can be a complicated issue as there is not always a clear reason why someone sucks to the degree in which they suck. Suckage is funny that way. Multiple factors can contribute to suckage, all which have various layers that can add or take away from the suckiness. Other times it is as simple as one clear, common factor, which lays blame to the suck factor.

What came first the chicken or the egg? In the same way one could ask what comes first, suckage, or well, suckiness? Does suckiness lead to suckage or vice versa? Remember, even in SUCcess there is a root of potential suckage that is hidden, though clearly there to the discerning eye. You see, it is not as simple an answer as one might think.

One thing though is for certain: It sucks to suck. This much I know.
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RSBucky said:
Good point that the SEC will not be dominant forever. For the sake of accuracy, though, the SEC has seven consecutive NCs. I think the Big10 had four between 79-2003. LSU, Tenn, FL, and UGA also won NCs during that stretch. Hard to say it was just Bama.

It won't be long until the Big10 gets a championship. Hopefully this year.
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You're right, I did miscount. My comment about it being Bama and no one else was in relation to the SEC National Champions between the years 1957 and 2003 (LSU) not currently.
 
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Fucking Crimony. Why the fuck is some school you don't root for losing to a shitty team embarrassing? This type of shit is what's embarrassing. Do you think a Bama fan is embarrassed by Biff Tannen shitting the karmic bed against Rutgers?

Who cares how many pts Cal scored, at home, in a LOSS?

Th other B1G schools have plenty of money. They can fend for themselves.
 
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BuckeyeClassof92 said:
I think Ohio State should move to the SEC.

Seriously? Akron? Central Florida? Is this all about the lack of homegrown talent in Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan? How does perennial powerhouse Nebraska give up 38 unanswered at home? It's getting embarrassing.
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The Big Ten Didn't Always Suck

From 1932 to 1961, the Big Ten won 15 recognized national championships in 30 years: (Minnesota 6, Michigan 4, Ohio State 4, Iowa 1). Add in Michigan State (not a conference member until 1953) and Notre Dame, and Midwestern teams won 20 national championships during that time. And that doesn't include Ohio State's perfect 1944 season (Army was recognized national champion) and Notre Dame's undefeated 1953 season (one-loss Maryland won the major titles that year). So during the 30's, 40's, and 50's, the Midwest schools "owned" college football.

The Big Ten Sucked Worse During the 1970's

If you think that the Big Ten is bad now, you obviously don't remember the 1970's. During the thirteen seasons from 1968 to 1980, Ohio State's record against the bottom feeders of the Big Ten (Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Wisconsin, and Minnesota) was an incredible 74 -2 (lost to Northwestern in 1971 and Purdue in 1978). That's a .974 winning percentage. I repeat: .974!

In those 76 games, the Buckeyes outscored their opponents by a combined 2,787 to 732 (36.7 to 9.6). The Buckeyes scored 40-49 points 21 times; 50-59 points 7 times; and 60+ points 4 times. The Buckeyes had 15 shutouts, and held the opponent under ten points another 31 times, In other words, total domination.

Michigan State somehow managed to post a relatively respectable 3 - 8 record against Ohio State, but were outscored by a combined 337 to 130 (30.6 to 11.8), including three shutouts, and four games in which the Ohio State offense scores 40+ points.

Add Michigan State into the mix, and Ohio State was 83 - 5 (.943) against Big Ten teams not named Michigan, with a combined score of 3,124 to 862 (35.5 to 9.9), 18 shutouts, and 40+ points 36 times. There was a reason that the conference was called the "Big 2 and the Little 8" back in those days.

Michigan had similar success against the "Little 8" during that time, with a record of 84 - 4 (.955), a combined score of 2,914 to 738 (33.1 to 8.4), with 25 shutouts and 23 games with 40+ points.

The "Big 2" versus the "Little 8": 167 - 9 (.949), with a combined score of 6,038 to 1,600 (34.3 to 9.1). Yes, the Big Ten sucked worse in the 1970's, way worse.

By the way, the Buckeyes were 6-6-1 against Michigan, with each team scoring exactly 176 points.

It's All Cyclical

The SEC's seven-year run coincides with down cycles for five traditional powers:

Nebraska 62 - 32 (.660)
Florida State 61 - 32 (.656)
Michigan 54 - 35 (.607)
Notre Dame 54 - 35 (.607)
Miami 48 - 40 (.545)

If those schools ever get their collective acts together, then it will make it more difficult for the SEC to maintain its dominance.

Should Ohio State Move to the SEC?

Are you kidding me? You know, if you didn't have "Buckeye" in your username, I would have sworn that you were a troll.
 
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Here are the losses by B1G teams to non-B1G teams this season:

Illinois: Lost to Washington 34-24
Indiana: Lost to Navy 41-35, lost to Missouri 45-28
Iowa: Lost to Northern Illinois 30-27
Michigan State: Lost to Notre Dame 17-13
Nebraska: Lost to UCLA 41-21
Penn State: Lost to UCF 34-31
Purdue: Lost to Cincinnati 42-7, lost to Notre Dame 31-24, lost to Northern Illinois 55-24
Wisconsin: Lost to Arizona State 32-30

Only Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern, and Ohio State won all their OOC games.
Some of the non-conference loses aren't bad, but Nebraska getting trucked at home by UCLA, Indiana losing to Navy, both Iowa and Purdue losing to Northern Illinois, and Ped State losing to UCF is embarrassing to the conference. And you can throw in Michigan's close calls with Akron and Connecticut for good measure.
 
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