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Why is michigan on most people top 5 preseason list?

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Nice reference with Fargas. Does michigan count him as a full grad since he spent time there but finished his collegiate career at USC kind of like they say they won a National Championship in 97 although they shared it with Neb?

michigan returns quite a few players, but it will be interesting to see how their WR's and DB's do next year. Also, I think they have a pretty friendly schedule.
 
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bullsfan75 said:
Can you say Eddie George and Robert Smith.

I said the last 7-8 years, not the last 10-15.
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Hey genius, this is EG's 9th season. So, forget his rookie year and that is pretty impressive.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=772 border=0><TBODY><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1996</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>335</TD><TD>1368</TD><TD>4.1</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1997</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>357</TD><TD>1399</TD><TD>3.9</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1998</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>348</TD><TD>1294</TD><TD>3.7</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1999</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>320</TD><TD>1304</TD><TD>4.1</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2000</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>403</TD><TD>1509</TD><TD>3.7</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2001</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>315</TD><TD>939</TD><TD>3.0</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>6</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2002</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>343</TD><TD>1165</TD><TD>3.4</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD align=left>TEN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>312</TD><TD>1031</TD><TD>3.3</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>DAL</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>132</TD><TD>432</TD><TD>3.3</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#aaaaa4><TD align=left colSpan=2>CAREER</TD><TD>141</TD><TD>--</TD><TD>2865</TD><TD>10441</TD><TD>3.6</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>522</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>20</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

And if you use RS's last 4 years, that still falls into your 7-8 years, his #s are way better than any of your scUM FUCKS!

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1993 min | 10 | 82 399 4.9 2 | 24 111 4.6 0 |
| 1994 min | 14 | 31 106 3.4 1 | 15 105 7.0 0 |
| 1995 min | 9 | 139 632 4.5 5 | 7 35 5.0 0 |
| 1996 min | 8 | 162 692 4.3 3 | 7 39 5.6 0 |
| 1997 min | 14 | 232 1266 5.5 6 | 37 197 5.3 1 |
| 1998 min | 14 | 249 1187 4.8 6 | 28 291 10.4 2 |
| 1999 min | 13 | 221 1015 4.6 2 | 24 166 6.9 0 |
| 2000 min | 16 | 295 1521 5.2 7 | 36 348 9.7 3 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 98 | 1411 6818 4.8 32 | 178 1292 7.3 6 |
 
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buckeye27fan said:
We just decided to give RBs a rest and send the best DBs to the NFL (Plummer, Clement, Gamble, Winfield, Springs, Doss...who am I missing?)
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According to CBS Sportsline:
Clements, Nate (22) Buffalo Bills CB
Gamble, Chris (20) Carolina Panthers CB
Plummer, Ahmed (29) San Francisco 49ers CB
Springs, Shawn (24) Washington Redskins CB
Winfield, Antoine (26) Minnesota Vikings CB
Nickey, Donnie (23) Tennessee Titans DB
Allen, Will (37) Tampa Bay Buccaneers SAF
Doss, Mike (20) Indianapolis Colts SS

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/1592

CBS Sportsline does not list Fargas as a scUM alum - http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/1839
 
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:scum2:

Rational U of M alumnus here, please don't run me off the board. :biggrin:

brutus2002 said:
Henne just threw the ball up for grabs and Edwards came down with it. Avant is good and Breaston is decent. They are not even close to Edwards talent.
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First, regarding Henne, let me shamelessly copy this from mgoblog:

Player.......Att-Cmp Yards Pct TD Int Avg
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QB #1........270-456 3331 59.2 24 10 12.3
QB #2........240-399 2743 60.2 25 12 11.3

QB #1 is Navarre's 5th year, QB #2 is Henne. They _both_ had Edwards to work with. While Henne's stats were obviously inflated by Edwards, the kid has talent and can only get better.

Regarding Avant and Breaston, well, of course they aren't close to Edwards, but after Breaston's Rose Bowl I'd think he should be characterized as much better than "decent." He's no Ginn, but remember he was injured most of this season.


brutus2002 said:
Their defense sucks!!! When your best DB is Marlin Jackson(he and Shazor are the most overrated DB in college football) They better hope Shazor doesn't leave because their secondary is already horrible.
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Our defense does indeed suck, which was disturbing considering the talent in Woodley, Watson, (IMO) Jackson, and Shazor. Go to any U of M board right now and you'll see everyone calling for Hermann's head.

Even if Jackson is overrated (I won't argue since his 2003 was mediocre), it appears he's still thought of as good enough to warrant a 1st round pick. As for the rest of the secondary, no comment. I'm also hearing that Shazor will likely leave. :ohwell:


brutus2002 said:
They lose Finley their punter. Molesko is gonna be good but theirs a big difference between having all day to kick in H.S. and having a second or two to kick in college.
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Eh, we went to the Rose Bowl in 2003 with truly awful special teams. A punter really shouldn't affect a team's ranking, and Mesko has a pretty strong chance of being better than Finley.


The bottom line is, we're returning Hart, Henne, Avant, Breaston, Watson, Woodley, and (pleasepleaseplease) maybe Shazor, along with most of the offensive line and defense. If we actually fire Hermann, I'd say we deserve a top 5 ranking.

I'm simply not familiar enough with OSU beyond the obvious strong finish, Ginn, and mostly returning team to compare the two. The big 10 will be fun next year with U of M, OSU, and Iowa. Of course Purdue might screw everything up with their pathetic schedule.
 
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And if you use RS's last 4 years, that still falls into your 7-8 years, his #s are way better than any of your scUM FUCKS!


HUH? I'm not a Michigan fan. I'm simply pointing out the absurdity of claiming that all Michigan RBs are busts. Just because they're a rival doesn't make them inept.
 
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