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Well I hear the Reds are interested in Marcos Senna - appararently he's valued at over $6Million.

Oh, sorry, this about wine, not whining soccer players :wink2:

In my view, a good Spanish Red is probably best epitomized by a Rioja.
I'll leave it to AKAK to advise an age and vineyard - but on age I'd start the bidding somewhere around 4-5 years and go out from there.

Oh, you're baaaad. :)

I don't think I've had a straight-on rioja. We've been drinking granaches and tempranillos. Yummy.
 
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What is the only grape native to North America?
The Zin.
Horrible by itself!
But, progress has been made. (blending)
wow... zinfandel is the oldest domesticated varietal on earth. when Noah got drunk after the Flood in Genesis, chances are, he was drinking zinfandel...

as far as it being horrible on its own, i must heartily disagree. some of the best wines i've ever had were 100% zinfandel. they tend to be HUGE; bigger than some of the heartiest cabernets, but are dominated by intense, jammy fruit flavors...
 
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wow... zinfandel is the oldest domesticated varietal on earth. when Noah got drunk after the Flood in Genesis, chances are, he was drinking zinfandel...

as far as it being horrible on its own, i must heartily disagree. some of the best wines i've ever had were 100% zinfandel. they tend to be HUGE; bigger than some of the heartiest cabernets, but are dominated by intense, jammy fruit flavors...

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wow... zinfandel is the oldest domesticated varietal on earth. when Noah got drunk after the Flood in Genesis, chances are, he was drinking zinfandel...

as far as it being horrible on its own, i must heartily disagree. some of the best wines i've ever had were 100% zinfandel. they tend to be HUGE; bigger than some of the heartiest cabernets, but are dominated by intense, jammy fruit flavors...
Great fun to find this thread!

Zinfandel is actually the same grape as primitivo - common wine grape in southern Italy (recent DNA testing has shown them to be the same grape). I don't care for it, except in very old vine versions. lvbuckeye is right, though, there is usually a lot of depth of flavor in zinfandel for the money.

For those interested in some great red-wine values, I suggest trying the following:
  • Escudo Rojo, a Chilean cabernet sauvignon produced by the Rothschild family (famous for Chateau Lafite and Ch. Mouton in Bordeaux), available in Ohio fro about $15 a bottle.
  • Broquel, a label of Argentinian cabernet and malbec; really terrific for the price, which should be between $15 and $20.
  • Tir Na Nog, a grenache-syrah blend from Australia that is unbelievable for the $25 price.
  • Balmoral, a single-vineyard syrah from Australia (be warned, it's nearly $50 a bottle - but worth every cent).
FWIW, my favorite labels in California are Whitehall Lane (terrific cabernets), Gallo Sonoma (single-vineyard cabs from Barelli Creek Vineyard are fine), and of course Caymus (an unfortunately very rare treat :( ). California cabernet is seldom a really good value, but it's my favorite wine overall.
 
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not a Wine expert by any means.. but this thread just happened to be there this morning...

My business partner went to some local Princeton snobby ass wine party last night... everybody had to bring a bottle for exchange...

He brought some "something Oak" that he pays $210 a bottle... and he got some bottle he never heard of... so he goes home and looks it up on the internet... sells for $25-30 everywhere... his bottle can only be purchased at something like three locations on the planet... I told him that bottle he got tastes GREAT when you add 7-Up...

Like Larry the Cable Guy says... "now that's funny"
 
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not a Wine expert by any means.. but this thread just happened to be there this morning...

My business partner went to some local Princeton snobby ass wine party last night... everybody had to bring a bottle for exchange...

He brought some "something Oak" that he pays $210 a bottle... and he got some bottle he never heard of... so he goes home and looks it up on the internet... sells for $25-30 everywhere... his bottle can only be purchased at something like three locations on the planet... I told him that bottle he got tastes GREAT when you add 7-Up...

Like Larry the Cable Guy says... "now that's funny"
What a dolt - bringing Silver Oak to a wine-trading party. I'd bring Borsao ($7 a bottle) and hope some poor fool like your partner shows up ...

BTW, I'm the snobby ass ... :biggrin:
 
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What a dolt - bringing Silver Oak to a wine-trading party. I'd bring Borsao ($7 a bottle) and hope some poor fool like your partner shows up ...

BTW, I'm the snobby ass ... :biggrin:

Hah! And the guy who went home with the Borsao would have come out the better! Screw Napa and their over-oaked, over-alcoholized, pruny "cocktail wines." If I want a high octane pre-dinner cocktail, I'll have a fuckin' martini; then when the food comes out, I'll drink German, French, Spanish or Italian wine with dinner.
 
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Paging AKAK! :biggrin:

Anderson's on Sawmill has one of the best selections in Columbus. One wine that is fairly easy to find that is a REALLY good merlot is Sterling (Napa Valley). It's about $28-$30, and it's worth it. Another merlot that I love but might be hard to find is Artesa. It's a bit cheaper -- around $15-$20. The Artesa Reserve Merlot is the best merlot I've ever had, but it's $50 and probably impossible to find in Columbus (but I thought I would throw it out there anyway). I picked up a bottle in California when I was out there last month. I'm saving it for a REALLY special occasion. :biggrin:

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Did you jsut reccomend the Andersons?

You send the guy to Dublin... and you send him to the Andersons?

You'd think I didn't even sell Merlot...

If you could ship that Amarone I gave you back... I'd really appreciate it. :lol:
 
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Hah! And the guy who went home with the Borsao would have come out the better! Screw Napa and their over-oaked, over-alcoholized, pruny "cocktail wines." If I want a high octane pre-dinner cocktail, I'll have a fuckin' martini; then when the food comes out, I'll drink German, French, Spanish or Italian wine with dinner.
ORD, if your cellar is littered with any of those "overoaked, pruny" Napa cabernets I can take them off your hands for you ...

:biggrin:
 
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