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Game Thread Wisconsin 13, tOSU 31 (Oct 10, 3:30 ET, ABC/ESPN)

sflbuck;1564388; said:
Nail meet hammer... TP is thinking to much right now. He is thinking about his mechanics and his reads. He now has 3 "easier" games for the game to slow down for him. Hopefully that will be enough.

Speaking of tp, what's the deal with Joe Daniels and the assistant who is filling in for him.. I've wondered all year if not having your best qb coach is somehow effecting terelle.
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MondayAMGenius;1564462; said:
Speaking of tp, what's the deal with Joe Daniels and the assistant who is filling in for him.. I've wondered all year if not having your best qb coach is somehow effecting terelle.
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I believe that is a done deal. Coach Daniels is in a different position with the team now and Coach Sicilano is the new qb coach, I believe he has been doing the job since last season anyways. Go Bucks
 
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Mmmmm, yummy. Like a fine wine, I give you Madison.com's take on the Buckeye defense. Enjoy:

Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:05 pm | No Comments Posted


Wisconsin running backs Zach Brown (30) and John Clay reflect from the bench in the closing moments of the Badgers' 31-13 loss to Ohio State on Saturday at Ohio Stadium. Photo by: Craig Schreiner/Wisconsin State Journal
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Chalk one up to the immovable object.
The football game on Saturday at Ohio Stadium was supposed to be a throwback Big Ten Conference-style showdown between the University of Wisconsin rushing offense and the Ohio State rushing defense.
Both were ranked No. 1 in the conference. The Badgers came in averaging 217.2 rushing yards per game and had the conference's leading rusher in John Clay, averaging 116.4 yards per game.
The Buckeyes came in surrendering 83.4 rushing yards per game and were especially stingy in the previous three games, allowing a total of 113 yards.
It was supposed to be the classic irresistible force, meeting the immovable object.
Not only did the Buckeyes stop the UW running game in its tracks, they also trampled quarterback Scott Tolzien for good measure. The Badgers rushed for a season-low 118 yards and Tolzien was sacked six times in Ohio State's 31-13 victory.
"We're just disappointed," left guard John Moffitt said. "That was the tough aspect from today -- we just didn't give Scott the chance we needed to get into the groove and really do what he needs to do."
After getting sacked twice in the first game, Tolzien had gone four games without going down. That ended on UW's first offensive play, when defensive end Cameron Heyward beat Moffitt.
It was the start of a long day for Tolzien, who threw two interceptions returned for touchdowns and was under siege all game.
"You could see him elude a couple times, but bottom line, there were some straight-out guys right in his face that really threw his confidence off and made it difficult for him to read his (progressions)," UW coach Bret Bielema said.
Some of that was due to the Badgers' inability to run the ball. Clay had to fight to finish with 20 carries for 59 yards.
"They've got an excellent front four," Clay said. "They were reading our keys and looking at what we were doing. They made shifts and motions when they saw our guys motioning. They were reading us good."
The Badgers tried to soften the middle by running receiver David Gilreath on "speed sweeps." He had three carries for 37 yards in the first half.
But there's a reason the Buckeyes came in allowing 252.6 overall yards per game, the lowest in the conference.
"I don't know, since I've been in the league, if I've ever seen the defensive lineman rotation, the depth they've got," Bielema said. "To be able to keep coming with new guys."
The Badgers moved the ball at times, but kept hurting themselves with penalties, including two holds and a false start by senior tight end Garrett Graham.
"We were getting it going, then we shot ourselves in the foot almost every drive," left tackle Gabe Carimi said.
When the Badgers got behind and had to throw, it got ugly, with three sacks in the fourth quarter.
As strong as the Buckeyes are up front, Carimi believed the Badgers should have handled them better.
"They always recruit really athletic guys, but they're nothing we can't handle," Carimi said. "For some reason, we weren't getting on those fits. We were putting ourselves out of position more than anything.
"We've got the skill to stop them. I just don't know if our heads were right."
Whatever the issue, it needs to get fixed in a hurry.
"We better bounce back," Moffitt said. "We don't have a choice. That just comes to working hard in practice and doing the right things there."
 
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MondayAMGenius;1564473; said:
Mmmmm, yummy. Like a fine wine, I give you Madison.com's take on the Buckeye defense. Enjoy:

Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:05 pm | No Comments Posted


Wisconsin running backs Zach Brown (30) and John Clay reflect from the bench in the closing moments of the Badgers' 31-13 loss to Ohio State on Saturday at Ohio Stadium. Photo by: Craig Schreiner/Wisconsin State Journal
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Chalk one up to the immovable object.
The football game on Saturday at Ohio Stadium was supposed to be a throwback Big Ten Conference-style showdown between the University of Wisconsin rushing offense and the Ohio State rushing defense.
Both were ranked No. 1 in the conference. The Badgers came in averaging 217.2 rushing yards per game and had the conference's leading rusher in John Clay, averaging 116.4 yards per game.
The Buckeyes came in surrendering 83.4 rushing yards per game and were especially stingy in the previous three games, allowing a total of 113 yards.
It was supposed to be the classic irresistible force, meeting the immovable object.
Not only did the Buckeyes stop the UW running game in its tracks, they also trampled quarterback Scott Tolzien for good measure. The Badgers rushed for a season-low 118 yards and Tolzien was sacked six times in Ohio State's 31-13 victory.
"We're just disappointed," left guard John Moffitt said. "That was the tough aspect from today -- we just didn't give Scott the chance we needed to get into the groove and really do what he needs to do."
After getting sacked twice in the first game, Tolzien had gone four games without going down. That ended on UW's first offensive play, when defensive end Cameron Heyward beat Moffitt.
It was the start of a long day for Tolzien, who threw two interceptions returned for touchdowns and was under siege all game.
"You could see him elude a couple times, but bottom line, there were some straight-out guys right in his face that really threw his confidence off and made it difficult for him to read his (progressions)," UW coach Bret Bielema said.
Some of that was due to the Badgers' inability to run the ball. Clay had to fight to finish with 20 carries for 59 yards.
"They've got an excellent front four," Clay said. "They were reading our keys and looking at what we were doing. They made shifts and motions when they saw our guys motioning. They were reading us good."
The Badgers tried to soften the middle by running receiver David Gilreath on "speed sweeps." He had three carries for 37 yards in the first half.
But there's a reason the Buckeyes came in allowing 252.6 overall yards per game, the lowest in the conference.
"I don't know, since I've been in the league, if I've ever seen the defensive lineman rotation, the depth they've got," Bielema said. "To be able to keep coming with new guys."
The Badgers moved the ball at times, but kept hurting themselves with penalties, including two holds and a false start by senior tight end Garrett Graham.
"We were getting it going, then we shot ourselves in the foot almost every drive," left tackle Gabe Carimi said.
When the Badgers got behind and had to throw, it got ugly, with three sacks in the fourth quarter.
As strong as the Buckeyes are up front, Carimi believed the Badgers should have handled them better.
"They always recruit really athletic guys, but they're nothing we can't handle," Carimi said. "For some reason, we weren't getting on those fits. We were putting ourselves out of position more than anything.
"We've got the skill to stop them. I just don't know if our heads were right."
Whatever the issue, it needs to get fixed in a hurry.
"We better bounce back," Moffitt said. "We don't have a choice. That just comes to working hard in practice and doing the right things there."
Sure thing Jerky. I guess you'll put yourselves in better position next year? :roll2:
 
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jmorbitz;1564457; said:
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:rofl: Yeah there's always next year Bret. Remember that play against Ohio State, again...

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Wait, I've seen that look before...


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Derek2k3;1564309; said:
Its amazing, tOSU has won its last 4 games by the following scores:

38-0
30-0
33-14
31-13

Thats an average margin of victory of 33 points. We are giving up 6.75 points/game.

Yet the nation chooses to ignore the Buckeyes. Not only are we beating the teams we should (Unlike USC, Oklahoma) but we are doing it in convincing fashion. These boys are busting their asses, yet all that is said is "tOSU wins on 3 plays." No, we beat Wisky over the course of that entire fucking game, not just those three plays. TP had an awful start, but recovered nicely to complete 4 of 6 for 77 yards and a score. As bad as it felt, any of you who saw the Tate Forcier show tonight knows it could be much, much worse.

If we keep winning, the rest takes care of itself. I'm glad to see PSU play another pansy, they have only played one decent team and lost. So they will not be prepared for the big game environment of the tOSU game. As long as we take care of business against Iowa we are going to finish the year in the top 5, potentially the top 3. But I admit that the lack of recognition is a little frustration, given how well the men are playing. And to make matters worse, the nation will ignore us until the PSU, Iowa, scUM portion of the schedule.

All in all, I'm so fucking proud of this team. Rolling through the schedule on game at a time, bring on the Boilers!!!

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cbrian815;1564467; said:
I believe that is a done deal. Coach Daniels is in a different position with the team now and Coach Sicilano is the new qb coach, I believe he has been doing the job since last season anyways. Go Bucks

There lies the problem. We owe this kid. He picked OSU because he thought he was going to get coached up. Coach Daniels has the chops to do that. He did a magnificent job with Troy. I understand his health issues and he deserves his new position. But we have to remember TP is a second year starter now and we all need to look and see where players with only a small portion of his physical talents are, or were, when they were sophmores with 14 or 15 games under their belt.

I don't know Coach Sicilano and I don't know any of the qb's he has coached. Hopefully, there is no correlation there. I don't mean to disparage him at all and he may be a wonderful coach and great guy.

BUT....this is The Ohio State University. Half the great offenses in the country are coached by guys from Ohio. You would think that one of their QB coaches might want the tutelage from Coach Tressel and the opportunity to build a QB out of TP. I would think there are some great offensive guys out there who would pay the school to take that job. We owe it to TP and all our QB recruits..... :osu:
 
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robbothehut;1564544; said:
There lies the problem. We owe this kid. He picked OSU because he thought he was going to get coached up. Coach Daniels has the chops to do that. He did a magnificent job with Troy. I understand his health issues and he deserves his new position. But we have to remember TP is a second year starter now and we all need to look and see where players with only a small portion of his physical talents are, or were, when they were sophmores with 14 or 15 games under their belt.

I don't know Coach Sicilano and I don't know any of the qb's he has coached. Hopefully, there is no correlation there. I don't mean to disparage him at all and he may be a wonderful coach and great guy.

BUT....this is The Ohio State University. Half the great offenses in the country are coached by guys from Ohio. You would think that one of their QB coaches might want the tutelage from Coach Tressel and the opportunity to build a QB out of TP. I would think there are some great offensive guys out there who would pay the school to take that job. We owe it to TP and all our QB recruits..... :osu:
Give me a motherfucking break.

Seriously people. This shit is getting ridiculous. The kid has been here a tad bit over a year. ONE FUCKING YEAR. I don't fucking care how many starts he's had. The game WILL slow down for him eventually. When it does, you're all going to sound like all the assholes in '04 and '05 talking shit about Troy. It would be fucking hilarious if it weren't so fucking predictable. It's the same shit. Over and over and over. If it weren't made of steel wool, I'd rip my fucking beard off.
 
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BUCKYLE;1564569; said:
Give me a motherfucking break.

Seriously people. This shit is getting ridiculous. The kid has been here a tad bit over a year. ONE FUCKING YEAR. I don't fucking care how many starts he's had. The game WILL slow down for him eventually. When it does, you're all going to sound like all the assholes in '04 and '05 talking shit about Troy. It would be fucking hilarious if it weren't so fucking predictable. It's the same shit. Over and over and over. If it weren't made of steel wool, I'd rip my fucking beard off.

GPA. Don't know how many damn annoying complaints i heard about Pryor this weekend. This kid is only a Sophomore. Remember that.
 
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robbothehut;1564544; said:
There lies the problem. We owe this kid. He picked OSU because he thought he was going to get coached up. Coach Daniels has the chops to do that. He did a magnificent job with Troy. I understand his health issues and he deserves his new position. But we have to remember TP is a second year starter now and we all need to look and see where players with only a small portion of his physical talents are, or were, when they were sophmores with 14 or 15 games under their belt.

I don't know Coach Sicilano and I don't know any of the qb's he has coached. Hopefully, there is no correlation there. I don't mean to disparage him at all and he may be a wonderful coach and great guy.

BUT....this is The Ohio State University. Half the great offenses in the country are coached by guys from Ohio. You would think that one of their QB coaches might want the tutelage from Coach Tressel and the opportunity to build a QB out of TP. I would think there are some great offensive guys out there who would pay the school to take that job. We owe it to TP and all our QB recruits..... :osu:

I agree with buckyle that tp is simply in his ugly duckling phase and will make us all proud.
But I don't see you're post as being critical of tp, but rather you raise a point about coaching. It's too soon to tell if Siciiano is up to the challenge, but history is mixed. We ironically average somewhere in the 60's in total offense, but at the same time our coaches turned Troy into a fricking Heisman winner.
So all we can do is be deliriously happy about our record and the baddest defense on the planet and give the kid some time. Go Bucks!!
 
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Taosman;1564449; said:
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Wisconsin's Scott Tolzien got hit so many times Saturday, it's a wonder he didn't conduct his postgame interview from a hospital room.

The former standout quarterback from Fremd High School somehow managed to survive an Ohio State defense that Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel described as "relentless."

Asked how many times he believed he got sacked, Tolzien replied: "I want to say maybe three or four times."

Actually it was six. And to observers, it seemed like many more.
Ohio State hands Wisconsin first loss, 31-13 -- chicagotribune.com

I was impressed that Wisconsin was able to "hold" us to only 6 sacks..

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JBaney45;1564855; said:
I was impressed that Wisconsin was able to "hold" us to only 6 sacks..

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Not to mention their only touchdown of the day was granted to them through a holding/block in the back as well as an unseen step out of bounds.

Other then that, Wisky is purrty damn close to beating us! I mean, the Shoe is Camp Randall East after all...
 
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JBaney45;1564855; said:
I was impressed that Wisconsin was able to "hold" us to only 6 sacks..

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Holding, hands to the face, trying to rip guys heads off instead of blocking...couldn't see all this that well from c deck but man alive RIIIIIIIIDiculous!!!!

Plus Oglesby looks like he is saying..."Give old big bear a hug".
 
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BUCKYLE;1564569; said:
Give me a motherfucking break.

Seriously people. This shit is getting ridiculous. The kid has been here a tad bit over a year. ONE FUCKING YEAR. I don't fucking care how many starts he's had. The game WILL slow down for him eventually. When it does, you're all going to sound like all the assholes in '04 and '05 talking shit about Troy. It would be fucking hilarious if it weren't so fucking predictable. It's the same shit. Over and over and over. If it weren't made of steel wool, I'd rip my fucking beard off.

You need to re-read my post before pulling out your beard...I guess more vulgarity would have made it more readable.....I wasn't ragging on TP or anyone else. I was stating that I don't think he is getting the sort of help he was promised or is entitled to. Furthermore, you can look around; Reisling, Tebow, McCoy, Bradford, Daniel, etc..... they were all further along as sophomores with less talent at this point in their college career. I wouldn't trade TP for any of those guys. My point was that we may not have adjusted to Coach Daniel's health issues as well as we should have. A good QB coach can help a kid adjust to the speed of the game.

I have no complaints about TP at all and I'm glad we have him. I know he's working hard and I only want the best for him as well as every other guy on the team and athlete at the school.
 
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