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WR Coach Brian Hartline (Official Thread of a BAMF)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Buckskin86, Mar 1, 2004.

  1. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

  2. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

  3. HorseshoeFetish

    HorseshoeFetish Silver Bullet Supporter

  4. OregonBuckeye

    OregonBuckeye Semper Fi Buckeyes

    Need to have Hartline recruiting RB's for us too now
  5. brodybuck21

    brodybuck21 THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Staff Member Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Fall Camp 2019 To Do List: WR Coach Brian Hartline
    August 7, 2019by Tony Gerdeman1 comments

    Fall camp got underway for the Buckeyes this past Friday and every single Ohio State position coach has a mental list of things that they need to get done.

    In fact, they may actually have a physical list as well.

    Speculating as to what might be on each assistant coach’s list is always a fun exercise, and there are no shortages of items that will need to be addressed.

    We have previously covered the to-do lists for defensive line coach Larry Johnson, secondary coach Jeff Hafley, offensive line coach Greg Studrawa, linebackers coach Al Washington, and running backs coach Tony Alford.

    Up today is receivers coach Brian Hartline.

    Hartline must find replacements for Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin, and Johnnie Dixon, but that’s just one of the many things he will be trying to get accomplished this month.

    What might the rest of his list look like?

    1. Figure out a rotation that works.
    For many years now, the Buckeyes had a group of six receivers they could rely on. Basically, they’ve had a two-deep at the three receiver positions since 2014. Back then it was Devin Smith/Corey Smith, Evan Spencer/Michael Thomas, and Dontre Wilson/Jalin Marshall. The last two years, it’s been Austin Mack/Binjimen Victor, Terry McLaurin/Johnnie Dixon, and Parris Campbell/KJ Hill. Three of those guys are gone now, however, and Mack may be playing on the other side of the line. Still, it looks like there will be more than the form-fitting six receivers that Brian Hartline can turn to this season. CJ Saunders and Jaelen Gill give the Buckeyes three H-backs. Garrett Wilson, Jameson Williams, and Ellijah Gardiner are three Zs looking to break into the current two-deep of Mack and Chris Olave. Things are a bit quieter over at X, where you’ve got Victor and Jaylen Harris. The math may not work out perfectly this season, and there may be some remainders, but it is easy to imagine there being guys beyond the top six who can be contributors this season.

    2. Determine where Austin Mack is going to be.
    When you look at the depth at Z right now, with or without Austin Mack, and compare it to the depth at X, you can see why it wouldn’t be a huge surprise to see Mack move back to X. Currently, he is still at Z and the Buckeyes seem determined to keep it that way. The growth of Jaylen Harris has made this a comfortable decision for Brian Hartline. It will also force guys like Garrett Wilson and Ellijah Gardiner to elevate their games even more if they want to break into any kind of rotation. In order for Mack to stay where he is, however, he is also going to have to show that he can handle it. While a senior like him might be taking fewer reps because of the experience he already has, Hartline can’t necessarily go that route with Mack because they need to get him ready and he needs to show that he can make the necessary plays.

    3. Continue to refine Garrett Wilson’s skills.
    Garrett Wilson may be the most talented receiver on the Ohio State roster, but he is far from the most skilled. Skill takes time, but Brian Hartline and Wilson have no problem punching the clock. Wilson is a quick learner and a productive applier. Refinement is always necessary for a freshman, but sometimes that refinement looks a lot like pouring boxed wine into a red plastic cup. Yeah, it’s better to drink out of a cup than a box, but there’s still a ways to go before the local country club is going to send you an invite. Wilson is clearly further along than most freshmen, which is why Brian Hartline is already able to focus as much on refinement as teaching.

    4. Find another Terry McLaurin.
    This one is simple. All Brian Hartline needs to do is find someone who does everything correctly no matter what is asked. Who is a leader. Who is also a hell of a blocker. Who is reliable. Who is fast, strong, and one of the toughest dudes on the team. He must be able to move positions at any point. Somebody who is more happy to see a teammate score than to score himself. Who prefers to block a couple of guys on a scoring play than being the guy who actually scored the touchdown. A receiver capable of wiping out three defenders in a single bound. Somebody who will run just as hard to clear out a defense as a receiver who runs a route knowing he is the primary read. Somebody who will do whatever it takes, whenever required, and for any of his teammates. And then somebody who can catch the ball and run a long way with it as well.

    5. Give Jaelen Gill as much as he can handle.
    Parris Campbell caught 90 passes last season and now he is gone. Jaelen Gill is the one receiver on this Ohio State football team who is most similar to Campbell. They’re both about the same size, both played running back in high school and had to transition to receiver in college. They’re both very fast, but in order to stay on Campbell’s good side, it must be mentioned that Campbell is certainly faster. That doesn’t make Gill slow, of course, because he’s not. The main point here is that a large chunk of the offense left with Campbell, and so did its explosion. In camp, Gill should be worked at every level. In the backfield, on sweeps, on drag routes, deep stuff over the middle, and deep stuff down the sideline. Gill could make up for a lot of the big plays lost from last season, but first Brian Hartline needs to know that he is capable of handling the responsibility.
  6. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    On Wilson @6:55 (love it):

    "When a guy makes a play like that though, in the Spring Game, it gets everybody talking ... did you have to manage--?"

    "No. I just pointed out how he lost leverage, and it was a bad stem, and it wasn't a good route. Everyone else is just talking about how it was a good play... We're not focusing on the pounds on the backs and the atta-boys."
  7. LovelandBuckeye

    LovelandBuckeye You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM

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  8. brodybuck21

    brodybuck21 THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Staff Member Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Taylor Lehman on August 21, 2019 at 10:30 am @taylorrlehman
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    In his first two years as Ohio State's wide receivers coach, Brian Hartline has had five captains in his position group.

    There’s a new standard being set within the Ohio State wide receivers room. After two receivers – K.J. Hill and C.J. Saunders – were named team captains Monday, it became clear that Ohio State wide receivers are beginning to take the lead in shaping what modern leadership on a Buckeye team looks like.

    It started with former Ohio State receivers Terry McLaurin and Parris Campbell, who were both named team captains in 2017, following a year in 2016 when there weren’t any wide receiver representatives.

    McLaurin and Campbell then helped usher in Johnnie Dixon, as all three receivers played strong leadership roles throughout the season and during their journeys to the NFL. In just his second year as the Buckeyes’ wide receivers coach, Brian Hartline has already coached five team captains.

    “I think it’s been a special run,” Hartline said Tuesday. “The only thing that I can take from this run in our room – one is it’s very honoring for our room – but to make sure we understand that that’s the standard. So if that goes away, then shame on me and shame on what we have going on in our room.”

    What’s become clear is that the receivers named team captains, and most players named team captains, don’t need to be the most productive players on the roster. McLaurin had just 11 receptions the year before he became a team captain, and Dixon had 18. Saunders, who entered the program as a walk-on cornerback out of Dublin Coffman High School, had 10 catches in 2018, down from 17 the year before.

    But, particularly when there is a new staff leading the team into a 2019 season, the veterans, players with strong chemistry with their teammates and understand the standard needed to win, will be the first players turned to in times of trial – times that will inevitably strike a program in some capacity during its first season after losing a coach like Urban Meyer.

    Hartline said, from his perspective, Saunders is one of those players, even though he’s competing for a backup role at H-back.

    “CJ, he’s a phenomenal young man,” Hartline said. “He adds great depth to our room. He’s a warrior, he’s a machine. When I need a guy, he’s always that guy. We have a lot of work to do, and he will be the first to tell you that.”

    Hill is another receiver who, even though he is just 47 catches away from breaking David Boston’s career receptions record, has earned the respect from his teammates. It only makes sense, given that he has already carved a role on the field for himself, unlike most of the receivers in the room on the 2019 roster. That will happen when one position loses three team captains in the same offseason.

    Hill was one of the least surprising names mentioned as team captains, and even though he seems like he’s leagues ahead of other receivers like Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave and even his two senior teammates, Ausitn Mack and Binjimen Victor, in terms of production, he’s also approaching ground that’s unfamiliar to him. He’s never been a team captain, and he’s never been the No. 1 option within the receivers room.

    But the standard is still there. If there’s a carry-over from the previous wide receiver captains, it will shine through Hill in 2019.

    “He’s just a stud,” Hartline said. “He understands zones and has some of the surest hands on the team. We really lean on him. With him being a captain, you can see some of the guys have similar respect for him. He’s a mainstay in our room, and I can’t say enough about him.”

    As the years go by and Hartline continues to build the receivers room, as he’s already begun to do with the 2020 recruiting class, it’s unknown whether two or three team captains will be the expectation from Ohio State wide receivers.

    But Hartline seems to understand how to glue a group together. He’s already led four of the top-100 2020 wideouts to consider themselves “a family” in a way that’s very reflective of the Campbell-McLaurin-Dixon bond in 2018.

    Being a family within a family seems to be the trend in a Brian Hartline-led receiving corps, and when he or his receivers talk about the standard at wide receiver, it’s clear that the number of captains doesn’t necessarily matter, but that standard of leadership is what leads to that respect from other members of the team.

    “It’s kind of our own little competition without us meaning it to be,” Hartline said about being named team captains. “It’s very honorable that we can be represented as captains, but I think it says more about the young men we have in that room – young men we hopefully look forward to bringing in year after year.”
  9. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

  10. brodybuck21

    brodybuck21 THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Staff Member Fantasy Baseball Champ

    How the Cleveland Browns and Ohio State Buckeyes were changed by former teammates Jarvis Landry and Brian Hartline
    Updated Sep 4, 2019; Posted Sep 4, 2019
    Brian Hartline during warmups in 2014.

    By Doug Lesmerises,

    COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Brian Hartline never wishes his Ohio State receivers good luck. That’s because of Jarvis Landry.

    Jarvis Landry always takes it upon himself to help young receivers. That’s because of Brian Hartline.

    Five years ago, a Miami Dolphins receiver coming off consecutive 1,000-yard seasons welcomed a second-round draft pick into the receivers room. Hartline, the veteran, never knew it then, but his instinct to discuss the game with the rookie came from the same place that led him to become Ohio State’s receivers coach in 2018 and reshape and reinvigorate that position in Columbus.

    Landry, the rookie, may not have understood it then, but as Hartline and fellow veteran Mike Wallace showed him the ropes, he adopted the outlook that led him to reshape and reinvigorate the Browns receivers room when he arrived in Cleveland in 2018.

    Two teammates in Miami for one season in 2014, now changing attitudes in Columbus and Cleveland in 2018 and 2019.

    “He’s probably a helluva coach,” Landry, 21 then and 26 now, told me of Hartline. “He was one of the smartest guys in the room. He could tell you everything about the offense and what we were trying to do, from the routes to the protection to what the quarterback probably was thinking, all that stuff. I know that began my learning process of how I learned the game."

    “That was the approach, we knew he could help us win,” said Hartline, 27 then and 32 now. “He was a very talented, special young man. I tried to do the best I could for him, and I’m glad he feels that way, because I think a lot of him. He’s a good dude, and the sky’s still the limit for him.”

    Hartline was entering his sixth NFL season when Landry arrived. Landry is now entering his sixth NFL season, and when, for instance, the Browns traded for receiver Taywan Taylor over the weekend, it was Landry they got on the phone with him. John Dorsey jokingly asked Taylor, just acquired from Tennessee, which one of these “knuckleheads” he wanted to talk to first. Taylor said both, meaning Landry and Odell Beckham, and Dorsey told him he’d get “Pitbull One” on the phone first.

    Landry welcomed Taylor, then Beckham did the same. Beckham shared a playbook that included his own tips about plays and routes. Landry told him to get ready to work.

    “That affects me tremendously, just knowing what type of guys are in that room," Taylor said. “They work nonstop 24-7. It’s going to motivate me, just trying to live up to what they do.”

    We know how Landry was shaped by his college experience, playing at LSU with Beckham under Adam Henry, now their receivers coach again with the Browns. But when Landry got to the NFL, picked at No. 63 by Miami, he was on his own. Hartline didn’t feel like he had a veteran who really explained the NFL to him, so he and Wallace made sure that didn’t happen with Landry.

    “The year before I got there was one of his best seasons, so I definitely looked up to him,” Landry said. “It was me watching him, how he used his stems, how he’d make catches on the sideline, toe taps and just paying attention to him. Mike Wallace was another guy I looked up to, and I kept my eye on those two my whole rookie year.”

    Landry said he’s heard stories of older receivers who don’t care about rookies, “because they’re worried they’re coming to take their job. So they don’t help you,” Landry said. "But those guys did help me and they looked out for me, on and off the field, and that’s something I’m forever grateful for.

    “So that’s what I do.”

    In turned out that 2014 was Hartline’s final year in Miami, as he caught 39 passes for 474 yards. Landry in Year 1 had 84 catches for 758 yards. Hartline played his final NFL season with the Browns in 2015. Landry had his breakout first Pro Bowl year in Miami in 2015.

    In March 2018, Landry was traded to the Browns. In July 2018, Hartline was named Ohio State’s interim receivers coach after the firing of Zach Smith. In August 2018, Hartline watched Landry’s impassioned speech to the Browns receivers room on Hard Knocks like every other football fan. Hartline saw the rookie he remembered, but grown up.

    “That’s who he is,” Hartline said. “I think the best leaders are the most genuine, and with him, he’s as genuine as it comes. He wasn’t afraid to talk about being great and what it entails, and he still embodies that today.”

    Hartline believes that in the NFL, change must come from players, because they have so much power. So Landry’s voice echoes. In college, the receivers can look to their coach more.

    Smith had success with the OSU receivers, but there’s a level of precision and expectation that has risen in Columbus since making a seven-year NFL veteran their coach. Hartline learned something from that Miami rookie, something that he spreads through the OSU receiver room. The Buckeyes may not know it, but there’s a piece of Landry in Hartline’s attitude.

    Before games, Miami coach Joe Philbin used to walk around the locker room and wish players good luck. Hartline remembers watching Landry go along with it for a game. And then the rookie spoke up.

    “He said, ‘Coach, I don’t need luck. Stop wishing me good luck. Tell me to be great. The luck’s been gone,’” Hartline said. “So ever since then, I don’t wish luck. I agree with him. Don’t tell me to be lucky. Tell me to be great. I put the work in. So that was an ‘aha’ moment for me.

    “You’re right. We worked our tails off. Go be great.”

    In Cleveland and Columbus, that’s what two old Miami teammates are getting their rooms to do.
  11. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.


    As much as I loved the Ryan Day hire, I I had strong doubts that he and his staff could ever match what Urban Meyer's Ohio State teams did on the recruiting trail.

    Folks, I may have been wrong!

    Ryan Day's first-ever recruiting class currently sits at No. 3 in the nation thanks to two guys Tom VanHaaren of ESPN has as the best recruiter and fifth-best recruiter in the country.

    1. Brian Hartline

    Ohio State wide receivers coach

    Top recruit landed: WR Julian Fleming

    Hartline is a younger coach who already has made a big impact on the field with the receivers as well as on the recruiting trail. Hartline was the primary recruiter with the five-star receiver Fleming, who committed to Ohio State in May.

    Fleming is the No. 4 prospect in the country, the second-highest-ranked recruit to announce his commitment, and the highest-ranked receiver in the class. Hartline also played an instrumental role in landing ESPN 300 athlete Mookie Cooper as well as ESPN 300 receivers Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Gee Scott Jr., and he was the secondary recruiter with four-star receiver Cameron Martinez out of Michigan. Hartline is reloading his receiver room with some outstanding prospects in this class.


    5. Jeff Hafley

    Ohio State co-defensive coordinator

    Top recruit landed: CB Clark Phillips III

    Hafley already has helped improve Ohio State's defense on the field, and now he is making an impact in recruiting with a ton of top recruits in Ohio State's class. Phillips is one, along with ESPN 300 safety Lejond Cavazos, who decommitted from the Buckeyes, then recommitted in April.

    Getting Cavazos back on board was a big deal, and Hafley also has played a part in landing Lathan Ransom, Cody Simon, Cameron Martinez, Kourt Williams II and a few others in this class.

    Ohio State is the only team in the country with two coaches even in the top-10 of these rankings, and the Buckeyes have the best one overall and the fifth-best. And neither of them have been full-fledged assistants at Ohio State for longer than two years.

    Let's pray Ryan Day wasn't fibbing when he said he doesn't expect anyone on staff to be leaving anytime soon.

    Entire article:
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  12. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    OK, so he's gotten commitments from the top receiver in the country, a couple of other receivers who look great, and a couple of talented guys who might also spend some time at receiver - all in the 2020 class.

    But it's the end of October, and he only just got the commitment from Marvin Harrison, Jr., the second 4-star receiver in the 2021 class.

    C'mon, Brian, let's pick it up, only 13 and a half months until early signing day for that 2021 class!
  13. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

  14. Drubuck

    Drubuck What time is it?

    Future OC and head coach.
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  15. MGMT

    MGMT Senior

    Cough anti Alford cough
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