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YOUR 2016 Cleveland Indians Thread (American League CHAMPS!)

Sports aren't supposed to hurt this much.
End result definitely hurts but this was an absolutely incredible run. Go back and look at media predictions right before the postseason began. Very few people gave this team a shot to go anywhere.

Instead, they swept the team most people thought would win the A.L. while spoiling the end of a legendary player's career, shut down one of the best offenses in baseball in 5 games, and took the best team in baseball to the absolute brink. Wounds are still fresh, but fans are going to look back fondly on this team.
 
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You know, any other fucking team in MLB would have gotten Chicago to do something incredibly stupid and curse-like to win.

But not Cleveland, NOOOOOOO.
They did plenty of stupid shit. The Tribe just out-cursed them.

"I see your curse is as big as mine..."

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In the end. In typical Cleveland fashion. Our best pitchers saved their worst for last

Kluber didnt look on from the start, The Cubs were loose and teed off on him.

Same with Andrew Miller, probably his worst outing of all season. That HR he gave up to my Grandpa was basically a death blow.

Allen too, his inability to throw strikeallowed Shaw to wreck the day
 
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I still consider a Pennant a pretty big deal.

Absolutely.

Honestly, while I defended Kip and the other guys for getting pissy with Hoynes about the "so much for a deep run into October" -- the only issue I had with it was the certitude of marking it down, I certainly felt like he was more than likely right. (I'm pretty sure extra innings of game 7 is a deep run)

And I won't do it here because I'm disappointed too, but, I remember telling all you chicken littles to STFU about the negative shit after the '15 NBA finals... they were just missing guys they needed, not much to be done. And here, I started not to feel that way until the cracks and fissures of Tomlin, Bauer, and Kluber's last start and I don't know if Miller wasn't sharp or the workload had caught up to him. (And you see what even just back to back long(ish) outings do to Chapman) Both teams pitching began to crack. Ours just cracked a little sooner, there's a reason what Kluber was trying to do... doesn't get done very often.

So, for me... and the way this team is built and the contracts they have locked down... I think, if you look at it like the NFL, there's making the playoffs, there's winning a playoff game and there's winning a championship.... so, to me this was the making the playoffs year, and they won two series, and took the best team in baseball, quite literally to the brink while missing a lot of guys on a small payroll team that shouldn't have a margin for error. Probably not even Drone accident margins for error... nevermind the rest.

So, in that lens, winning the Central was a win (and they won it by 8 fucking games). Beating the Red Sox was huge, but it was a 5 game series, and then beating Toronto in a 7 game series, in a whipping was enormous. (and I think if you tried hard enough, and look back in this thread, you'll see where I preferred to get the Rangers over anyone in the East.) And to do it without Salazar, Carrasco, Bauer's pinky and lest we all forget, Michael Brantley (who was 3rd in the MVP voting in '14, has a Silver Slugger and is one of the hardest guys to strike out in game.)

I dunno what's gonna happen with Napoli, as we sit here now, I assume they'll pick up Santana's option even if its a few more bucks than they'd like, its also only one season, and I don't know what we can expect in the future from Brantley... but they have 5 guys the know how to pitch at least on regular rest (and maybe an idea of when to get Salazar and Tomlin a little extra during the season), a playoff weapon bullpen and a lot of pretty good everyday position players and roll guys that they have to decide on. Its a hell of a lot fewer questions marks than I can remember in a long time.
 
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In the end. In typical Cleveland fashion. Our best pitchers saved their worst for last

Kluber didnt look on from the start, The Cubs were loose and teed off on him.

Same with Andrew Miller, probably his worst outing of all season. That HR he gave up to my Grandpa was basically a death blow.

Allen too, his inability to throw strikeallowed Shaw to wreck the day

The Cubs had their rotation intact. The Indians were Kluber and smoke & mirrors. No one should be surprised that Kluber and Miller were pitching on fumes last night given the frequency with which they'd been asked to pitch.

The longer the series went on it was going to work in the Cubs favor.
 
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It just seems like Cleveland pro sports teams are king of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Just like the fumble against the Broncos.....
The other team was trying, too. This goes back to when we lost against Florida. Yeah.....we got our asses handed to us. But we were still there in the NC to do it. What the fuck did the rest of the country do that they think getting beat by 30 some in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME is something to be mocked. You're in the game against one of the two best teams in the world. They're pretty good, too. They might be better. You might lose. It's not always because you shoot yourself in the foot.
 
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