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Zach Smith (Official Thread)

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bukIpower said:
With no charges tho?

How would any of you like to be fired for an offense where charges were dropped?

First charge he got he was fired.
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Yes with no charges.

There is a moral imperative to do the right thing. Cops keep getting called to the house for domestic incidents. 1 time is a coincidence, 2 is a trend.

Let's say the cops keep investigating him for fooling around with kids but there were never any charges for various reasons. Sound familiar? You still ok with the head coach burying his head in the sand because there were no formal charges?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Sandusky was clean as a whistle right up until he wasn't.

That is what can happen when you ignore smoke from fires.
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With Sandusky though someone came to JoePa and Joe did nothing...

Urban didn't have someone report abuse to him. He only had dropped charges to work with and that's it.

I understand where you're coming from but unless UFM knew Zach was abusive first hand or was told directly then what can he do?

From what we know he was only aware of two dropped charges.
 
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bukIpower said:
With Sandusky though someone came to JoePa and Joe did nothing...

Urban didn't have someone report abuse to him. He only had dropped charges to work with and that's it.

I understand where you're coming from but unless UFM knew Zach was abusive first hand or was told directly then what can he do?

From what we know he was only aware of two dropped charges.
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Just like I'd say to any cultist, if you think the head football coach doesn't know that one of his assistants is being investigated for the same crime multiple times then you are either incredibly naive or trying to rationalize it away.

Meyer knew that Smith had the cops show up for a domestic incident on more than one occasion. I would bet my life on it.

Also not sure where you get the idea that someone has to have charges pressed against them to be sent packing from a place of employment. It happens all the time and at all levels of the organization. You see obvious signs of trouble brewing and you take action to make sure it doesn't blow up in the face of the organization.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Just like I'd say to any cultist, if you think the head football coach doesn't know that one of his assistants is being investigated for the same crime multiple times then you are either incredibly naive or trying to rationalize it away.

Meyer knew that Smith had the cops show up for a domestic incident on more than one occasion. I would bet my life on it.

Also not sure where you get the idea that someone has to have charges pressed against them to be sent packing from a place of employment. It happens all the time and at all levels of the organization. You see obvious signs of trouble brewing and you take action to make sure it doesn't blow up in the face of the organization.
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There's only one huge glaring omission...

With one there was first hand testimony that was ignored.

Urban had dropped charges.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
No clue where to put this, but a reminder that this dude's decisions impacts a lot of people. (And this should have been avoided a long time ago by Urban, imo).

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Yeah I will agree there... should have canned him years ago for the allegations.

However he didn't and he didn't do anything wrong In the grand picture. Gave someone a chance with tendencies and it back fired
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Sandusky was clean as a whistle right up until he wasn't.

That is what can happen when you ignore smoke from fires.
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It’s apples and oranges. Sandusky used his position to abuse children and in his place of employment. By failing to report, JoePa allowed Sandusky continued access to more victims. Zach Smith’s situation was not employment-related and the conduct occurred in his home.

That is not to say I’m not disappointed in Urban Meyer. This is 25x worse than his decision to hire Tim Beck. I think it requires a university background check on each employee within the football program. If Urban doesn’t like the university looking over his shoulder, he can walk.

But it’s not nearly on the same level as what happened at Penn State and I certainly stop short of calling for Urban’s job.
 
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Zach Smith shouldn't have been hired for a position coach spot because he didn't have the right experience. The 2009 incident should have been his one freebie screw up. He should have been fired after all his other crap long before today. If he had the right experience it would have been forgivable to give Zach a chance despite the 2009 incident if the wife was on board.
 
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OH10 said:
It’s apples and oranges. Sandusky used his position to abuse children and in his place of employment. By failing to report, JoePa allowed Sandusky continued access to more victims. Zach Smith’s situation was not employment-related and the conduct occurred in his home.

That is not to say I’m not disappointed in Urban Meyer. This is 25x worse than his decision to hire Tim Beck. I think it requires a university background check on each employee within the football program. If Urban doesn’t like the university looking over his shoulder, he can walk.

But it’s not nearly on the same level as what happened at Penn State and I certainly stop short of calling for Urban’s job.
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My thoughts as well just better put lol...

Shouldn't cost him his job but I agree a better job must be done with background checks.

Then again maybe they did the proper checks on Zach and again his ex stepped up for Zach? So no charges against him and the victim saying everything was overblown.
 
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