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Zach Smith (Official Thread)

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Hstead said:
Am I supposed to see something in these photos? What am I missing? It looks like she has been crying. No marks on her arms. ZS has an obvious mark on his right upper arm, that is all I see. But this is supposed to mean she was beaten somehow?
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You aren't looking....

The picture behind her head was a quick effort to hide the indentation from where she was thrown against the wall. To the left of that is a poor effort to hid a bullet hole. That trash bag on the right I am certain is filled with bloody rags from the clean up. And if you will look closely at her picture you can see where she was literally torn in half.

To be serious though, reading the police report I would be inclined to take Courtney at her word on this one.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
Her face looks blackish/bruised to me. That’s all I need to see. Fuck Zach Smith.
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That is mascara from crying. She didn't even accuse him of hitting her in the face. This is the kind of shit I am tired of. People making ZS out to be a serial wife beater when by all accounts, INCLUDING Courtney's, he didn't hit her. She accused him of throwing her against the wall and choking her.
 
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Hstead said:
That is mascara from crying. She didn't even accuse him of hitting her in the face. This is the kind of shit I am tired of. People making ZS out to be a serial wife beater when by all accounts, INCLUDING Courtney's, he didn't hit her. She accused him of throwing her against the wall and choking her.
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That’s not enough? That’s his pregnant wife.

Is that mascara on the side of her face? That’s what looks bruised to me. Could be shadow. Regardless, picking his pregnant wife up and throwing her into a wall is enough to still say fuck Zach Smith.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
That’s not enough? That’s his pregnant wife.

Is that mascara on the side of her face? That’s what looks bruised to me. Could be shadow. Regardless, picking his pregnant wife up and throwing her into a wall is enough to still say fuck Zach Smith.
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Then say fuck him for that reason, not because you think it looks like he hit her in the face.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
That’s not enough? That’s his pregnant wife.

Is that mascara on the side of her face? That’s what looks bruised to me. Could be shadow. Regardless, picking his pregnant wife up and throwing her into a wall is enough to still say fuck Zach Smith.
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No, a man should not throw his pregnant or non-pregnant wife against a wall. However, facts are important to me, despite the entire country wanting to blame Urban for hitting CS himself and all of the other BullShit.

There is a difference to me. ZS evidently did not hit the woman. According to CS herself, her own mother, and everyone else to include more than one police department and officer. There is no need to convict the man of something he did not apparently do, ie. punch her in the face.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
I agree. The way I put it made it seem like the two statements were not mutually exclusive. Fuck him regardless if he hit her in the face.
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Hstead said:
No, a man should not throw his pregnant or non-pregnant wife against a wall. However, facts are important to me, despite the entire country wanting to blame Urban for hitting CS himself and all of the other BullShit.

There is a difference to me. ZS evidently did not hit the woman. According to CS herself, her own mother, and everyone else to include more than one police department and officer. There is no need to convict the man of something he did not apparently do, ie. punch her in the face.
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He didn’t hit her. Got it. Has anyone disputed the throwing of a pregnant woman in to the wall? CS? ZS? CS mom?

We can give ZS a medal for not hitting CS and that medal would say “piece of shit: still.”

I don’t think he still deserves the defense you’re trying to give him. Poor ZS the pregnant woman thrower. He didn’t hit her! Give him a break!
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
He didn’t hit her. Got it. Has anyone disputed the throwing of a pregnant woman in to the wall? CS? ZS? CS mom?

We can give ZS a medal for not hitting CS and that medal would say “piece of shit: still.”

I don’t think he still deserves the defense you’re trying to give him. Poor ZS the pregnant woman thrower. He didn’t hit her! Give him a break!
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I have been on several other college football team forums, and the narrative seems to be the same across the entire country, Urban Meyer enabled a wife beater. That pisses me off. Maybe it doesn't you? With that false narrative, driven by the lazy main stream media, click-baiters, and ESPN, it seems to me someone has to set the record straight and defend the facts. Urban Meyer did not enable a wife beater. ZS was not a wife beater. Over a six year period he appears to have thrown her into a wall and maybe on another occasion choked her, which the later is much more debatable than the throwing into the wall appears. CS has no pictures of bruises, busted lips, swollen eyes et al even though she was incredibly competent at saving and screen shotting everything else on her phone. Her own mother said Zach never hit her. Is ZS a POS, yeah probably, but damnit to me the facts need to be told and this bullshit that Urban Meyer somehow does not follow his own team rules of respecting women needs to end. It is bullshit, so yeah I am going to be a stickler when it comes to facts like him punching her in the face. Didn't happen.
 
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