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Zurp's Pick 'em 2011-2012

Zurp

I have misplaced my pants.
I did this a few years ago on here, and a few people had fun. Maybe people are interested in doing it again?

Anyway, here's how it works. (I forget the old rules, so I'll make up new rules now.)

To sell a team, the teams are "worth" as many points as they have wins. So a team that is 5-3 is therefore "worth" 5 points.
To buy a team, the teams are "worth" one more point than they have wins. So to buy the 5-3 team, you need to spend 6 points. Edit: When buying a team, each team is now worth as many points as they have wins. You only need 5 points when buying a 5-3 team.
Buy as many teams as you want, but you can only have one of each team.
Big Ten teams/games only count. Only Big Ten standings count. Ohio State will be 0-0 until... I think the first game is against Michigan State on October 1. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

To start the season, you have 10 points, and we use last season's win totals to start this season. For the sake of not being totally stupid, Ohio State will be worth 7 points, instead of 0. Nebraska's record from within the Big 12 (whatever that was) should be good for this game.

Up until September 1 you can buy/sell all you want, without the 1 point thing for buying teams. If you buy Ohio State, you have 3 points remaining.
After September 1, you have to start paying the 1 point "penalty" for buying teams. So if you bought Wisconsin for 7 points, and decided after they play their first game that you'd rather have Michigan State, you can sell Wisconsin for those 7 points, but then you need 8 points to buy Michigan State. (Note that until the first Big Ten conference game, last season's wins will be used for the teams' "worth".) Edit: No more penalty.

Edit: No more buying penalty. Instead, each player is limited to 4 trades per week. A buy counts as 1 trade, and a sell counts as 1 trade. So if you sell one team, and buy another, that was 2 trades.

Also Edit: This date is no longer Sept. 3. It is now Sept. 1, since Wisconsin plays Thursday night. The moment the ball is kicked on that game, we are all limited to 4 trades per week.

Once Big Ten play begins on October 1 (again, correct me if that is wrong), we'll start using the 2011 wins for the points.

At the end of the season, you sell all your teams and whoever has the most points wins yacht trip from a Miami booster, or something. But probably not that.

Notes:
1. I want some feedback. Should we have the 1-point "penalty" for buying teams? I wanted to discourage a lot of buying and selling. I wanted to make people look a few weeks down the line before making transactions, rather than just this week.
2. Don't be goobers. If a game ends at 3:00 Saturday afternoon, don't sell the team that just won and then buy a team that is playing at 8:00 that night. Pretend each game is happening simultaneously each week. Thursday, Friday, and Sunday games (if there happen to be any) would count as that closest Saturday.
3. Let me know if you have any questions. It's pretty simple in my head, but I don't always get the info to my typing fingers very well.
4. Make all your transactions public, in this thread. I'm not going to check everyone's deals to see if everyone is playing fairly. But sometimes it's cool to look back and see where someone's pick was great or terrible or whatever.

Thanks

Edit: Note that there is no carry-over points from the "pre-conference game period" to the "conference game period". Per Nicknam4's example, someone could start with the 10 points, buy Indiana for 1 points, and carry-over 9 points to the start of the season. Then, he can buy the next 4 best teams (each worth a maximum of 1 point) in one week. Theoretically, someone could have bought all 12 teams within 3 weeks.

BB73 suggested I make this definitive, and here's as definitive as I can make it. Points do not carry over to the in-conference games. Points do carry over after the first week of games. If this is not clear enough, please let me know now so we don't have an incident later.

Everyone who has already made picks has plenty of time to sort them out. If you have a point or two left, please figure out what you want to do with them. If I don't hear from you, I'll give you Indiana if you have a leftover point and don't already have Indiana. I'll give you a 2-point team (Purdue or someone else) if you have 2 extra points. But I don't want to hear anyone complaining. If I can't figure out what to do with your points, and you haven't changed your picks, the points get lost.
 
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Note: You can start playing any time up to the first Big Ten game. But it is beneficial to start before September 3. After that, I don't see how you can start late.

Here's the number of wins each team had last year:
Ohio State 7
Michigan State 7
Wisconsin 7
Nebraska 6
Iowa 4
Illinois 4
Penn State 4
Michigan 3
Northwestern 3
Purdue 2
Minnesota 2
Indiana 1
 
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I'm going to make my picks now (before I forget and get shut out of my own game):

Start with 10 points
Buy Iowa (4)
Buy Penn State (4)
Buy Purdue (2)
Points left: 0

(By the way, if you do not spend all of your points, those points will carry over each week.)

Also, remember that you can buy/sell all you want with no penalty before the first game (non-conference) of the season. After that, you have to spend 1 more point to buy the team than you would if you were selling that team. Last season's wins are used until Big Ten play begins in 2011.
 
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I'll play...

Let me have some
Indiana (1pt)
Purdue (2pts)
Michigan (3pts)
Penn State (4pts)

Pts left 0


Question:
If, after the first round of games, I want to trade my bottom feeders for better teams do points disappear? By that I mean I spent 10 points buying them, but after game one they are worth at most 4 combined points. If I sell them all, do I only get 4 points and my other original 6 points disappear into Shalala's Vajayjay?
 
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BB73;1972451; said:
So in order to trade 2 teams for 2 other teams ... at the same time ... it costs 2 extra points to make that complete switch, correct?

Yes. Basically, you sell the first team for X points, sell the second team for Y points. The next two teams combined must be worth a maximum of (X+Y-2) (unless you had some leftover points from the previous week). Again, I'm looking for feedback on this point. I don't want people to just trade every week - rather, to look several weeks ahead before making these trades. Maybe a half a point is a better number?

This is only after Sept. 3. Before that, all trades are free.

Pheasant;1972454; said:
Question:
If, after the first round of games, I want to trade my bottom feeders for better teams do points disappear? By that I mean I spent 10 points buying them, but after game one they are worth at most 4 combined points. If I sell them all, do I only get 4 points and my other original 6 points disappear into Shalala's Vajayjay?

Gross.

Yes - those points "disappear". However, remember that if you sell your teams and get 4 points, you can buy any other team for a maximum of 2 points (they have a maximum of 1 win, plus 1 point for buying it). So maybe you got 4 points the first week, then you realize none of those teams is going to win the following week. You sell your 4 teams for a 1-win team (2 points), and 2 -win teams (1 point each).

Wow - and that's a good place to get screwed. All three of your new teams lose, and you're stuck at 1 point.

OK - what do you guys think? Keep it that way, or drop it down to 0.5 points per buy? Or maybe a maximum of 2 buys and 2 sells per week?
 
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Well you could have it to where you step up the prices per team each week by a certain percentage and have the players accumulate points with wins and if the teams they pick lose, they lose those points as well.
 
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