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Cornerback6
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OSUBuckeye4Life;858239; said:
I don't think he's comparing TP to either...he's just saying the QB's impact is much greater than your typical DT regardless of how great the DT is.
That being said, I would love to have Goebel in this class and given our needs, I too put him at my #2 recruit behind Pryor. They haven't finished high school yet no, but Pryor has the potential to change the face of an entire offense (the great QBs can do this) for multiple years. Goebel even at an All-American play level would definitely help bolster a great defense, but would never be the catalyst or nucleus that Pryor would. Of course this is all hypothetical, but in my opinion, regardless of depth at a position, getting the #1 player in the entire nation is never a luxury, but instead a golden opportunity...especially when it's a quarterback.
Let's get both and then someone can say told you so a couple years down the road.
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OSUBuckeye4Life
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Cornerback6;858323; said:
I know that, and even addressed that. My point was that to use Vince Young and Troy Smith as your examples is stretching it a bit considering the kid hasn't even played his senior season yet. Who is to say this wont work out more like LSU........
Pryor = Perrilloux and Goebel = Dorsey ?
Bottom line all I was saying is that when you have a position of need you tend to go that route over a position you have depth at. Yes a QB tends to have a greater impact but QB's dont tend to have the impact Vince Young or Troy Smith did. I dont think anyone is WRONG by saying they want Pryor more just based on his potential. I just wasn't keen on the comparisons being used I guess.
I hope we land both.
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stxbuck
Woody wore Sambas
OSUBuckeye4Life;858239; said:
If you are arguing who the most important recruit is, you need to think like an NFL or NBA draft-sometimes there are talents out there too spectacular to pass up, even if you are solid at a position. Portland will draft Oden #1-and a no brainer it is-even though they have a solid (if somewhat surly/thuggish) 20/10 guy in the post w/ Zach Randolph. Pryor is the kind of player-like Vince Young-that can win games single handedly. DT's-even the best-cannot do that.
The Houston Texans passed on Vince Young for Mario Williams b/c of need-look at the situations of the Titans and Texans now........
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OSUBuckeye4Life
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stxbuck;858903; said:
Re-read the highlighted part....
OSUBuckeye4Life;858372; said:
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stxbuck
Woody wore Sambas
Obviously one is speaking potential-whether the jump is from HS to college, or college to the NFL. I think the best question to ask is- "Do I want a potential Vince Young for 3 years or a potential Tim Anderson for 3 years". No offense to Tim or Garrett, but we both know the answer to that.
Heck, FWIW, I think Mike Adams is more important than either of those guys-the need on the OL is even more accute and he is a "franchise" LT.
Heck, FWIW, I think Mike Adams is more important than either of those guys-the need on the OL is even more accute and he is a "franchise" LT.
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NightmaresDad
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Is the argument "who do we recruit the hardest"? (i.e. want the most).
It can't be "who would you pick between the two", because we don't have to.
If we only had one schollie to offer, or if they played the same position, then some of these statements would make more sense or be more valid, but I think we are arguing over nothing here.
Garrett is our top DL recruit, so he gets the most effort for DL recruits.
TP is our top QB/ATH recruit, so he gets the most effort from the staff in that area.
I would think that we would recruit them both the hardest that we can.
Its not like a draft where you do have to decide between them. And I would be surprised if the staff had an overall ranking for the recruits, regardless of position, unless it came down to only having one schollie left to give.
In any case, there would have to be room for both of these guys over other guys who might also commit, so the "cut-off" would come between other players.
It can't be "who would you pick between the two", because we don't have to.
If we only had one schollie to offer, or if they played the same position, then some of these statements would make more sense or be more valid, but I think we are arguing over nothing here.
Garrett is our top DL recruit, so he gets the most effort for DL recruits.
TP is our top QB/ATH recruit, so he gets the most effort from the staff in that area.
I would think that we would recruit them both the hardest that we can.
Its not like a draft where you do have to decide between them. And I would be surprised if the staff had an overall ranking for the recruits, regardless of position, unless it came down to only having one schollie left to give.
In any case, there would have to be room for both of these guys over other guys who might also commit, so the "cut-off" would come between other players.
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OSUBuckeye4Life
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stxbuck;858911; said:
I see what you are saying, although I think the question is....
"Do I want a potential Vince Young (all the while trying to project the hardest position to project in football) or do I want Tim Anderson (in a position that is BY FAR a greater NEED)?"
Again, with that said, I would love both and cannot be mad any ANYONE saying they would rather have Pryor. It just didn't seem "right" to me to bring in the likes of Vince Young and Troy Smith at this juncture, that was all.
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