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2020 Team Discussion Thread

Day is high for Starting a season in January.,has he ran it by his captains..I’d like to know how much player support there is. I know Wade is out..Fields shouldn’t play and Myers and Davis.

At this point Day is trying to keep his roster and program together. Giving the players a date and a goal to work towards keeps them at least semi-focused on something they can attain - even if it's a pipe dream.
 
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“Certainly the team last year I’ll never forget. It was the first time as a head coach, and what they did was awesome, but there was just something about this team that had it. It had it. They came back hungry after their last game on the field. They were determined. And this quarantine, this virus was not going to get in their way.”[/QUOTE]


The virus/quarantine didn't get in the way , it was Kevin "my son plays in the SEC so I don't give two shits about the B10" Warren. Who the hell hired this clown? The B10 should be presided over by someone like Barry Alvarez or Jim Tressel that actually bleeds B10.
 
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At this point Day is trying to keep his roster and program together. Giving the players a date and a goal to work towards keeps them at least semi-focused on something they can attain - even if it's a pipe dream.
Sounds like the Big 10 when they set a “schedule” . Players have to be thinking shame on me for the fall season if I am an TOSU football player I’m thinking shame on you Coach. Without a plan from the conference Day is just noise. Day pushed the fall season and was powerless..he’s still powerless.
 
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Sounds like the Big 10 when they set a “schedule” . Players have to be thinking shame on me for the fall season if I am an TOSU football player I’m thinking shame on you Coach. Without a plan from the conference Day is just noise. Day pushed the fall season and was powerless..he’s still powerless.

The difference being in this case it's Day working towards something and actively advocating it. It's consistent with what he's said all along.

He knows - and probably has told his players - that the ultimate decision is out of his hands. But if he were to say to hell with it and have them stop preparing, he could literally be setting them up for further failure.
 
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Sounds like the Big 10 when they set a “schedule” . Players have to be thinking shame on me for the fall season if I am an TOSU football player I’m thinking shame on you Coach. Without a plan from the conference Day is just noise. Day pushed the fall season and was powerless..he’s still powerless.
Yeah man, Day should just let this program crumble....

C’mon! Day is showing incredible leadership! Nobody knows what’s going to happen. Smh...
 
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There’s no such thing as a bad idea if it gets Ohio State back on the field again.

There might some that are impractical, a few that don’t add up when trying to account for player safety and maybe even some that simply wouldn’t even be worth the effort.

But with the Big Ten and the Buckeyes both having officially accepted that there won’t be any games this fall, the brainstorming session for the spring is well underway — and the clock is already ticking to try to nail down the details.

“I’m sure there will be a lot of back and forth here,” Ohio State coach Ryan Day said on Wednesday. “But in my opinion, I’ve met with our staff and met with [athletic director] Gene [Smith] on this, I think starting the first week of January would be the best way to go. An eight-week season, and that way there is some separation between that season and the next season. It would allow some of the midyear guys to come in and possibly play a two-for-one, two seasons in one calendar year, which I think the recruits would be really excited about.

“That’s kind of the focus right now, trying to put this plan together, button it up and work towards getting it implemented.”
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Just for starters:
  • The NCAA will have to determine what to do about about eligibility status for returning players while also figuring out what to do with scholarship restrictions as the Class of 2021 signs to join the program. The Buckeyes have a sizable contingent of players who are planning to enroll early, and that will only make it more important for there to be guidance on the expanded roster.
  • The weather in Big Ten Country is far from ideal in January and February. There’s no way the league could make Wisconsin or Minnesota host games in their home venues during that stretch, and it’s also not really doing programs any favors if they can’t ever practice outside. College football has been reluctant to embrace the proven-success of bubbles because it means acknowledging that athletes are different than the rest of the student population, but it will almost certainly need to play games in domes around the midwest to pull off a season.
  • Will there be a national championship on the line? Despite the insistence right now that the SEC, ACC and Big 12 are going to try to play, it’s highly unlikely that it will actually be able to start and finish a season in these circumstances. And not having the entire Power Five playing at the same time devalues the whole enterprise since there would be no true national champion. If somehow those leagues do follow through and somehow get through their schedules, would only competing for a conference title be enough incentive for Big Ten players? Maybe it would be, but it would feel a little hollow.
  • Is the NFL going to help by moving back the draft? For most schools around the league, this isn’t really a dealbreaker. But for a team with double-digit future pros like the Buckeyes, that’s going to be a major factor in deciding how many players would be willing to play in January instead of leaving school to prepare for the next level.
  • After preaching health and safety for the players, it would be a difficult pill to swallow if the Big Ten turned around and asked them to play at least 18 games in one calendar year. Day’s plan does allow for an extended layoff, and that’s perhaps workable — although it would rely on being able to start practices by December. Brohm’s plan has less flexibility and probably not enough off dates during competition to make it feasible if contact-tracing protocols are in place. So, maybe more than anything else, figuring out the wear-and-tear issue might be the biggest challenge of them all.
 
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There’s no such thing as a bad idea if it gets Ohio State back on the field again.

There might some that are impractical, a few that don’t add up when trying to account for player safety and maybe even some that simply wouldn’t even be worth the effort.

But with the Big Ten and the Buckeyes both having officially accepted that there won’t be any games this fall, the brainstorming session for the spring is well underway — and the clock is already ticking to try to nail down the details.

“I’m sure there will be a lot of back and forth here,” Ohio State coach Ryan Day said on Wednesday. “But in my opinion, I’ve met with our staff and met with [athletic director] Gene [Smith] on this, I think starting the first week of January would be the best way to go. An eight-week season, and that way there is some separation between that season and the next season. It would allow some of the midyear guys to come in and possibly play a two-for-one, two seasons in one calendar year, which I think the recruits would be really excited about.

“That’s kind of the focus right now, trying to put this plan together, button it up and work towards getting it implemented.”
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Just for starters:
  • The NCAA will have to determine what to do about about eligibility status for returning players while also figuring out what to do with scholarship restrictions as the Class of 2021 signs to join the program. The Buckeyes have a sizable contingent of players who are planning to enroll early, and that will only make it more important for there to be guidance on the expanded roster.
  • The weather in Big Ten Country is far from ideal in January and February. There’s no way the league could make Wisconsin or Minnesota host games in their home venues during that stretch, and it’s also not really doing programs any favors if they can’t ever practice outside. College football has been reluctant to embrace the proven-success of bubbles because it means acknowledging that athletes are different than the rest of the student population, but it will almost certainly need to play games in domes around the midwest to pull off a season.
  • Will there be a national championship on the line? Despite the insistence right now that the SEC, ACC and Big 12 are going to try to play, it’s highly unlikely that it will actually be able to start and finish a season in these circumstances. And not having the entire Power Five playing at the same time devalues the whole enterprise since there would be no true national champion. If somehow those leagues do follow through and somehow get through their schedules, would only competing for a conference title be enough incentive for Big Ten players? Maybe it would be, but it would feel a little hollow.
  • Is the NFL going to help by moving back the draft? For most schools around the league, this isn’t really a dealbreaker. But for a team with double-digit future pros like the Buckeyes, that’s going to be a major factor in deciding how many players would be willing to play in January instead of leaving school to prepare for the next level.
  • After preaching health and safety for the players, it would be a difficult pill to swallow if the Big Ten turned around and asked them to play at least 18 games in one calendar year. Day’s plan does allow for an extended layoff, and that’s perhaps workable — although it would rely on being able to start practices by December. Brohm’s plan has less flexibility and probably not enough off dates during competition to make it feasible if contact-tracing protocols are in place. So, maybe more than anything else, figuring out the wear-and-tear issue might be the biggest challenge of them all.

I thought I'd read that players were given the extra year of eligibility. So that should be good for players like Hilliard, Cooper, Werner, and Borland.

Obviously players like Meyer/Fields/Davis/Wade are done though.
 
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Amazing news for college football (especially SEC/ACC/Big 12)....mass production of saliva based Covid tests that come back in a matter of hours.

Credit to NBA for funding the development of test. This basically ensures the SEC/ACC/Big 12 will move forward with seasons since they can now consistently monitor the health of players and isolate those who test positive. Amazing news.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fd...aliva-testand-the-nba-is-involved-11597508654
 
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In a letter written to Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren, the Football Parents at Ohio State are asking him and the rest of the leadership of the Big Ten to reconsider cancelling the 2020 football season.

We believe that the August 11th decision was made in haste. As we have continued to learn nationally about COVID-19, our understanding and protocols in dealing with this virus have also continued to evolve. In the best interests of our players, we strongly believe that the Big Ten should re-evaluate its decision.

Among the things that the FPAOS are requesting are:
  • A reinstatement of the schedule released on Aug. 5, or “in the event the fall season is deemed not to be in the best interests of the athletes, provide a detailed plan for an alternate season.”
  • Full transparency to coaches, players and parents regarding the data used to reach the decision to cancel fall sports
  • A Zoom meeting between Warren, players and their parents
  • Allow teams who are prepared to play to play, while giving those who are not the right to forfeit or opt out until next season
  • A detailed action plan including standard practices and safety protocols for all teams
  • A response by Wednesday
The parents close their letter to Warren by pointing out that "football is a game of risk."

Our sons work extremely hard for the opportunity to play and fully understand the risks involved when they step out on to the field. Their personal decisions should be acknowledged and honored to give them the opportunity to compete as athletes in the game they love.

This letter comes after a week full of debate and just four days after the Big Ten's decision to cancel all fall sports competition for the 2020 season. In that time, many Ohio State players, coaches and parents have expressed anger about the decision, while the possible development of a rapid saliva test for COVID-19 reported on Saturday prompted even more questions about whether the Big Ten made a decision too soon.

Parents from Iowa, Nebraska and Penn State have also sent letters to Warren protesting the decision to postpone the football season to spring. Amanda Peterson Babb, the stepmom of Ohio State wide receiver Kamryn Babb and the president of Football Parents at Ohio State, told Eleven Warriors that the letter sent out by Iowa parents on Friday prompted Ohio State parents to do the same on Saturday.

“We talked to some Iowa parents and some Nebraska parents as well, and based on what the Iowa parents had done, we figured it was time to send out a similar letter to the commissioner about some of the lack of transparency and communication that we were feeling as parents,” Babb said.

Asked whether she thought the letter would make a difference in the Big Ten's next steps, Babb said she was “hopeful.”

“Kamryn actually just texted me and he said, ‘Do you think it will make a difference?’ And I said, ‘I don’t know,’” Babb said. “As a parent, you never stop fighting, right? You’re gonna do whatever you can. And I just feel like we have to exhaust all options that are available to us and this is just one thing that we have available. So we’re gonna continue to fight.

“And it’s all of the parents at Ohio State. We have class reps and they’re reaching out to all of the respective classes, and all of the responses we’re getting back from the parents is nothing but support. So we will continue to fight as long as we feel like we have a fight to give.”

 
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In a letter written to Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren, the Football Parents at Ohio State are asking him and the rest of the leadership of the Big Ten to reconsider cancelling the 2020 football season.

We believe that the August 11th decision was made in haste. As we have continued to learn nationally about COVID-19, our understanding and protocols in dealing with this virus have also continued to evolve. In the best interests of our players, we strongly believe that the Big Ten should re-evaluate its decision.

Among the things that the FPAOS are requesting are:
  • A reinstatement of the schedule released on Aug. 5, or “in the event the fall season is deemed not to be in the best interests of the athletes, provide a detailed plan for an alternate season.”
  • Full transparency to coaches, players and parents regarding the data used to reach the decision to cancel fall sports
  • A Zoom meeting between Warren, players and their parents
  • Allow teams who are prepared to play to play, while giving those who are not the right to forfeit or opt out until next season
  • A detailed action plan including standard practices and safety protocols for all teams
  • A response by Wednesday
The parents close their letter to Warren by pointing out that "football is a game of risk."

Our sons work extremely hard for the opportunity to play and fully understand the risks involved when they step out on to the field. Their personal decisions should be acknowledged and honored to give them the opportunity to compete as athletes in the game they love.

This letter comes after a week full of debate and just four days after the Big Ten's decision to cancel all fall sports competition for the 2020 season. In that time, many Ohio State players, coaches and parents have expressed anger about the decision, while the possible development of a rapid saliva test for COVID-19 reported on Saturday prompted even more questions about whether the Big Ten made a decision too soon.

Parents from Iowa, Nebraska and Penn State have also sent letters to Warren protesting the decision to postpone the football season to spring. Amanda Peterson Babb, the stepmom of Ohio State wide receiver Kamryn Babb and the president of Football Parents at Ohio State, told Eleven Warriors that the letter sent out by Iowa parents on Friday prompted Ohio State parents to do the same on Saturday.

“We talked to some Iowa parents and some Nebraska parents as well, and based on what the Iowa parents had done, we figured it was time to send out a similar letter to the commissioner about some of the lack of transparency and communication that we were feeling as parents,” Babb said.

Asked whether she thought the letter would make a difference in the Big Ten's next steps, Babb said she was “hopeful.”

“Kamryn actually just texted me and he said, ‘Do you think it will make a difference?’ And I said, ‘I don’t know,’” Babb said. “As a parent, you never stop fighting, right? You’re gonna do whatever you can. And I just feel like we have to exhaust all options that are available to us and this is just one thing that we have available. So we’re gonna continue to fight.

“And it’s all of the parents at Ohio State. We have class reps and they’re reaching out to all of the respective classes, and all of the responses we’re getting back from the parents is nothing but support. So we will continue to fight as long as we feel like we have a fight to give.”



IMO the 8 teams that voted no...

They knew what fate the 2020 season had which was Justin Fields and Ryan Day holding up the Championship trophy.

I don't totally agree with that, football is more than just who is the winner. There are educational and character gains in playing any organized sport; and good student athletes just like to compete too. Besides the favored team doesn't always win, that's anther reason we actually play the game.

If 8 schools voted no (i.e. there are 6 B1G teams willing to play), they could still have a 10 game B1G season with a home & away with each team, etc.

Ohio State, Nebraska. Iowa, and Penn State appear to want to play. I wonder who the other 2 teams are.

I'm guessing that the parent's input will go nowhere as Waren will just "blow them off" saying something like their concerns are not valid, a decision has already been made, and it's too late now for a fall season anyway. Besides there is tendency for people in charge not wanting to admit that they made a mistake (i.e. by changing a decision already made).
 
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