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Game Thread BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

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OCBucksFan;1062632; said:
Does that make us a bad team? No, it doesn't, it makes us a young team. This team was too pressured to fix what happened last year and it showed with everything we did.
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I don't think it was the case at all. OSU simply wasn't prepared because they don't face competition like that during the regular season.
 
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bukIpower;1062609; said:
5 wide with 1 TE and chris Wells
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conceptually, i understand why. the goal is to isolate and create mismatches when the D spreads out. however, if you NEVER throw that quick screen to Beanie then what's the friggin' point? the D just ignores Beanie and concentrates on the WRs because they know Beanie isn't getting the ball. he never has. instead, we get TB (and JZ before him, and CK before him) in a 7 step drop, and then running for his life...

can someone please explain to me why (other than the slant) the quick passing game is completely absent from our playbook? if we're lined up in the power I, there are 10 guys in the box, and the CB is off the WR, then why don't we EVER audible to a quick pass to the lone WR? it's 5 yards every time, and all it takes is one move and it's off to the races. i gave them a pass last year against Illinois in that situation (the entire second half) because i thought it was in the book but they just didn't call it. a year later, and i've seen it a bunch more, and it's NEVER been called, which tells me it's NOT in the book. it needs to be.

and if our TEs are so freaking good, then WHY DON'T WE USE THEM? we lined up in the silver package plenty against LSU. too bad we didn't do ANYTHING that we did against Washington or Penn State from that personnel package. i don't blame Fred Davis one bit for going to USC. they actually used him.

sorry. /rant
 
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Jake the Guru;1063143; said:
Ah, c'mon. Humor me, instead of "turning this around", and make a potshot. I'm sure you can offer insight, no?
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yeah... here's some insight for ya (and i'm sure BKB would agree): cheese will make your poop hard.

that bit's money around here, Guru...
 
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Jake the Guru;1063143; said:
Ah, c'mon. Humor me, instead of "turning this around", and make a potshot. I'm sure you can offer insight, no?
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OK, lets try it like this... you said:
OSU simply wasn't prepared because they don't face competition like that during the regular season.

On this point, you're quite incorrect.

What you meant to say and what you said are probably two different things. I am not going to take anything away from LSU, but this is not the "greatest team of all time" here. LSU is the legit champion, and they are quite a talented bunch. But for you to say that OSU has not played a regular season foe like them is ridiculous.

It's true the 2007 schedule was not riddled with landmines. I assume this is what you probably meant. But, if you look at schedules past and future, you'll see 2007 is an anomoly. OSU plays "top tier" talent with regularity. And has quite a fine record against it.

Humored?
 
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Jake the Guru;1063078; said:
I don't think it was the case at all. OSU simply wasn't prepared because they don't face competition like that during the regular season.
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Probably someting else you are forgeting here too. The other teams we have played this year had a week to prepare for the most part where LSU had 51 days to get ready for us and get heathly.
 
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After your post, it looks like I do know what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if LSU wasn't the greatest of all-time; they were the greatest the Bucks saw this year, and it showed. And, to humor you, 2006 proved to show the Bucks(and Wolverines) weren't as good as advertised. Those 2, and the Big Ten were overrated. And, IIRC, since you brought this up, the last real top-tier team you played in the Regular Season(Texas, 2005), you lost at the Shoe.

Oh no, not the 50ish days nonsense, again. You people have been so back and forth on that topic I'd figure the excuse would cease. I guess not.
 
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Jake the Guru;1063078; said:
I don't think it was the case at all. OSU simply wasn't prepared because they don't face competition like that during the regular season.
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1063125; said:
:slappy:

If you knew what you were talking about, I'd probably argue with you.
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One comment. I was reading the next year's record thread, when I saw a consensus that you'd beat the piss out of several conference foes. Based upon past history, and the quality of your ball club, I'd agree.

That led me to thinking about a hypothesis that I've read in several articles, that being your team had not been "tested" by being behind several games by a score or two.

I don't have a ready answer, as my knowledge of Big-10 football is still more limited than the posters here who have watched it their whole lives, but I can say with absolute certainty that there is no team on the SEC schedule that I can take for granted, nor can any other SEC team. Even Vandy and Kentucky, who do not have the history of success (being kind) always give us fits. They beat LSU and Georgia this year. Vandy almost beat us numerous times. Vandy almost beat us our first MNC year in '96, and it took a bad first down spot giving us a first down to assure us the win.

Mississippi State has beaten us. Ole Miss has beaten us. Arkansas has almost beaten us numerous times. Now, you can point to the equality/parity as a sign of the SEC being overrated. I mean, how can we beat each other up? But I believe that it is not so much that as the fact that we have no "gimmies" in the conference. I mean, we do have teams that we should be the favorite, but we do not have teams where we can say that we should beat them by 30 or 40.

And I think that it is more of a mindset that we are always out of it - and always in it - that is a help in all of our games and especially when things got bad. I am saying, I guess, that it is not physical talent that gives us the edge, but a mindset that is not as rattled when things go bad, one because we always think that we can be beat, no matter our public chest thumping, which is sometimes opposite to what we know; and two because being behind is a common occurrence in our schedules. That may give us a light edge in close games.

Like any generality it is obviously not true in all cases, and all years, but I was honestly struck at the stated confidence of beating that many in-conference opponents by that many points.
 
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