Can there really be Reverse Racism

[GoodLifeSean]

OK, this is a philosophical discussion on a term I've been seeing a lot again, reverse racism. This is probably due to the current unnamed major office race going on, but this is not about that. It's about the term, I remember hearing my profs at Miami rail against the term as well.

Webster's Dictionary provides this definition of racism1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So those beliefs are as stated, hence the term, reverse racism would infer the reverse of the above definition. Hence nothing would be based on a race, a very idealistic and novel idea (which I definately approve of).

Anyway, my question is, isn't the idea of reverse racism inherently racist in itsself as that would imply that only the dominant (read majority) race can be racist.

 

[DaytonBuck]

OK, this is a philosophical discussion on a term I've been seeing a lot again, reverse racism. This is probably due to the current unnamed major office race going on, but this is not about that. It's about the term, I remember hearing my profs at Miami rail against the term as well.

Webster's Dictionary provides this definition of racism1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So those beliefs are as stated, hence the term, reverse racism would infer the reverse of the above definition. Hence nothing would be based on a race, a very idealistic and novel idea (which I definately approve of).

Anyway, my question is, isn't the idea of reverse racism inherently racist in itsself as that would imply that only the dominant (read majority) race can be racist.

I had a class that said only the dominant race could be racist. If a minority race was racist it was prejudice, discrimination or something.

 

[OCBuckWife]

OK, this is a philosophical discussion on a term I've been seeing a lot again, reverse racism. This is probably due to the current unnamed major office race going on, but this is not about that. It's about the term, I remember hearing my profs at Miami rail against the term as well.

Webster's Dictionary provides this definition of racism1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

So those beliefs are as stated, hence the term, reverse racism would infer the reverse of the above definition. Hence nothing would be based on a race, a very idealistic and novel idea (which I definately approve of).

Anyway, my question is, isn't the idea of reverse racism inherently racist in itsself as that would imply that only the dominant (read majority) race can be racist.

I don't see your corallary. I spelled that wrong. you get my point. By definition reverse racism would impy as you stated but by common use it means something completely different. Dominant race is a subjective term as well, depending on state census. In California, white is a minority now. HOw is racism against whites in Cali any different than racism against any other race different?

Maybe I should stay out of this until I am sober. Never mind.

 

[DaytonBuck]

reverse racism absolutely exists in hiring practices

 

[OCBuckWife]

reverse racism absolutely exists in hiring practices

Affirmative action?

 

[DaytonBuck]

Affirmative action?

AA, Quotas, guilt, etc

 

[Gatorubet]

Individually, yes, but harder on a group level. You have to have real power to really discriminate. Ten brothas flipping you the bird in the hood does not compare with ten bankers deciding what neighborhoods to lend money to.

 

[OCBucksFan]

There's no such thing as "reverse racism" it's racism no matter how you look at it. I know guys from mexico who talk trash on people from el salvadore, they are racist. My grandfather hates everything that isn't white, he's racist, and I've run into black people who hate white people like they are the devil. All of that is racism. The reality of this question is that white people have done a lot to other races so somehow it's reversed if people hate them, but that's not the case. Hate is hate, even if you call it something else.

 

[DaytonBuck]

There's no such thing as "reverse racism" it's racism no matter how you look at it. I know guys from mexico who talk trash on people from el salvadore, they are racist. My grandfather hates everything that isn't white, he's racist, and I've run into black people who hate white people like they are the devil. All of that is racism. The reality of this question is that white people have done a lot to other races so somehow it's reversed if people hate them, but that's not the case. Hate is hate, even if you call it something else.

+1

 

[OCBuckWife]

There's no such thing as "reverse racism" it's racism no matter how you look at it. I know guys from mexico who talk trash on people from el salvadore, they are racist. My grandfather hates everything that isn't white, he's racist, and I've run into black people who hate white people like they are the devil. All of that is racism. The reality of this question is that white people have done a lot to other races so somehow it's reversed if people hate them, but that's not the case. Hate is hate, even if you call it something else.

Hate is hate. Exactly.

 

[Nutriaitch]

In California, white is a minority now.

Minority how?
Do you mean there is another individual race that has more people?
or
that every other race combined has more people?

I think I read somewhere that Texas is the latter of the two, but not 100% sure.

 

[OCBuckWife]

Minority how?
Do you mean there is another individual race that has more people?
or
that every other race combined has more people?

I think I read somewhere that Texas is the latter of the two, but not 100% sure.

Combined. Asian and Hispanic and "non white", total, out nunber "white."












shit. i cant find the cnesus report I read. dang it. cant back up. let me look later whe I am not drunk I know I read it. ..

 

[OCBuckWife]

Here

Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 6.7%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2006 (a) 1.2%
Asian persons, percent, 2006 (a) 12.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2006 (a) 0.4%
Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2006 2.4%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2006 (b) 35.9%

THats 59% combined. California QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

 

[OCBuckWife]

Here

Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 6.7%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2006 (a) 1.2%
Asian persons, percent, 2006 (a) 12.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2006 (a) 0.4%
Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2006 2.4%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2006 (b) 35.9%

THats 59% combined. California QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Someone want to tell me why, in Cali, I dont quality for affirmative action now?:)

 

[generaladm]

Well, the old saying is, "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". There was institutionalized racism in the US for the vast majority of the history of this country, and there still is today (lesser). One can view AA as reverse discrimination, but without it, we would still be mired in a society that is based on racism and sexism. AA may have it's down points, but I'll take it over the alternative. Unfortunately, racism is a large part of this country's history. If you've never talked to a black person who lived in the era where they had no human rights, you should do so. I have known many people who have had their lives threatened only because of the color of their skin, and it is unconscionable. Also, if you have never been in a setting where you are the minority, you should do so, it gives you perspective. I won't defend AA, or reverse racism as good things, but when you compare it to history, it's a cakewalk.