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Coaches leaving after signing day discussion

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strohs said:
If Drayton knew there was a possibility he was leaving, even if he was just going to be interviewing, then he should have told MW, period.
Don't give me the "it's recruiting" BS, it's about doing the right thing first and foremost.
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I agree with some of this. If he KNEW he was leaving then it should have been disclosed, as long as he knew before NSD. Now if he had interviewed and not heard anything back as of NSD, why should he have needed to disclose that he interviewed for the job? There is a possibility that every Coach at every school could leave. Harbaugh could possibly leave for the NFL someday, should he also have disclosed that to every recruit that he recruited?
 
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Bill Lucas said:
Does a manager have to tell his employees or potential employees that he is interviewing for another position?
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If said manager is calling weekly urging an applicant to join his company and suggesting that they will work closely together over the next few years, and then he bails the first day at work....yeah I'd have a MAJOR problem with that if I was the new guy.
 
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Hearsay incoming:
My good friend is a Georgia Bulldog alum and fan. He told me last night that someone on the ATL Falcons staff leaked that the UCLA DC was leaving after signing day. I believe the situation is 'ongoing' as Roquan hasn't signed a LOI yet.

I was told the Falcon coach who leaked it is a big Dawgs fan and thought it...disingenuous for the Bruins to bring this kid across the country without the coach who recruited him.

Relevant story:
http://recruiting.blog.ajc.com/2015/02/06/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-roquan-smiths-situation/
 
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osubartender23 said:
I agree with some of this. If he KNEW he was leaving then it should have been disclosed, as long as he knew before NSD. Now if he had interviewed and not heard anything back as of NSD, why should he have needed to disclose that he interviewed for the job? There is a possibility that every Coach at every school could leave. Harbaugh could possibly leave for the NFL someday, should he also have disclosed that to every recruit that he recruited?
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Maybe leaving someday vs. having had interviewed for another job are two different things. The kid is committing to your school for 4 years, you should do the right thing and let him know that you hope to move on to bigger and better things sooner than later and that you are actively interviewing for said things.
 
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There are a dozen ways this is ethical, just OK, or really bad - depending on the details - which we will never know for sure.

What I do know is that the optics are terrible.

There are many ways to deceive - omitting pertinent info is one of them. Mike Weber is the one who will judge this matter. If he believes he was deceived, give him his release - even if that means he goes to scUM. Otherwise the optics get even worse. If he is happy with what he is told, then all of this goes away.
 
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Happened at Tejas as well... tied to their DL coaching going to Florida...

This seemed like the craziest recruiting cycle in a while with all the signing day flips and coaches leaving...

what I love is all the sanctimonious media types like Charles Robinson saying how awful it is and that the NCAA should require mandatory reporting if a coach INTERVIEWS prior to signing day...

love it when they get on their soap box for things like this.
 
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strohs said:
Maybe leaving someday vs. having had interviewed for another job are two different things. The kid is committing to your school for 4 years, you should do the right thing and let him know that you hope to move on to bigger and better things sooner than later and that you are actively interviewing for said things.
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So lets say you have a three year stretch of interviewing for other colleges or NFL. You tell every recruit you come in contact with that you do not plan on being at the school much longer or you have interest in upgrading....what are the odds that you are in the business of coaching for an extended period of time?
 
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Elephant said:
So lets say you have a three year stretch of interviewing for other colleges or NFL. You tell every recruit you come in contact with that you do not plan on being at the school much longer or you have interest in upgrading....what are the odds that you are in the business of coaching for an extended period of time?
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If this is the situation and you truly aren't planning in being around, I think it's fair to question whether you should be involved in recruiting at that point. At my company we certainly do not involve "short-timers" in our recruiting discussions.
 
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http://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/02/06/buckeyes-mike-weber-stan-drayton/22976915/

Mike Weber felt betrayed.

On Thursday, a day after the Detroit Cass Tech running back put his name on the dotted line with Ohio State, running backs coach Stan Draytonannounced he was leaving the Buckeyes to take a job with the Chicago Bears. Drayton was a key player in recruiting Weber and persuading him to pick OSU instead of Michigan.

"I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie," Weber tweeted.

OSU coach Urban Meyer, attending the Ohio High School Football Coaches Association's annual clinic at a Columbus hotel this morning, said that both he and Drayton have spoken to Weber about the situation.

"There was a talk," Meyer said, via 247sports.com. "I had a long conversation with him, and so did Stan. We've got to move forward."

As far as Drayton's move is concerned, Meyer said: "I don't know if it's official yet, but coach Drayton has been with me a long time. I guess the pro calendar is much different now. He has little girls, where recruiting takes its toll. Every weekend, you're gone. He gets job offers every year. Now we'll go and hire a great coach here."

Was it a callous move on Drayton's part? Did he know he was leaving while convincing Weber to make a difficult decision? Or does he have every right to take a better job?

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matcar said:
If this is the situation and you truly aren't planning in being around, I think it's fair to question whether you should be involved in recruiting at that point. At my company we certainly do not involve "short-timers" in our recruiting discussions.
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If this is the case, wouldnt most coaches not be allowed to recruit? Aren't a majority of the coaches always trying to move up to bigger and better positions? I get that the situation could have been handled better but who knows when Drayton found out that he got the job. Maybe he wasnt looking for one and the Bears reached out to him to gauge his interest? Maybe this was just something that fell in his lap and it was too good of an opportunity for him to pass up. You can't call Drayton a "short timer" because he has been a coach for a number of years. His time just happened to come to move on to a position that could be considered a promotion. It happens.
 
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osubartender23 said:
If this is the case, wouldnt most coaches not be allowed to recruit? Aren't a majority of the coaches always trying to move up to bigger and better positions? I get that the situation could have been handled better but who knows when Drayton found out that he got the job. Maybe he wasnt looking for one and the Bears reached out to him to gauge his interest? Maybe this was just something that fell in his lap and it was too good of an opportunity for him to pass up. You can't call Drayton a "short timer" because he has been a coach for a number of years. His time just happened to come to move on to a position that could be considered a promotion. It happens.
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I think there's a pretty big difference between looking to move up and leaving the next day.
 
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