College Football Playoff (2015-16 Season)

[Palpie]

I'll ask the obvious question.

Why in the fuck would you do that?

Last year was excellent so lets jack with it?

The rose and sugar insisted they get to always be on jan 1 (or jan 2 when jan 1 is a sunday to avoid nofunleague). Actually the rose insisted and the sugar jumped in and made the same demand before the orange/cotton/fiesta thought to do the same thing. Stupidly they didn't split the two for the semi final years so they could have both semis on nyd 2 out of every 3 years. Personally i don't think it will effect the viewer numbers that much, unless the match ups are unattractive (tcu/baylor vs a non-fsu acc team) or a game gets out of hand.

 

[kujirakira]

Kujo, you raise two issues here: 1. You fail to recognize that an SEC team with less than 7 wins would finish no worse than 2nd in any other Power Five conference. 2. Though the games are ridiculous during Bowl season, they do offer something to watch other than reality TV. Maybe, since those games draw so poorly, the networks could spread the re-runs out over the off season to ease the boredom.

I mean who remembers what happened in the Belk, Franklin - American Mortgage, Tax Slayer Bowl games? It would be just like first run for most of us. BB73 could set up a virtual betting window for those of us with certified Alzheimer's.

Hell of a deal.

I keep waiting for somebody to have the breakthrough and schedule the Semi Final games before xmas break... but I guess the money isn't there for the tv guys who are actually running the show. Maybe it'll happen when they inevitably expand to 8?

 

[cincibuck]

I'll ask the obvious question.

Why in the fuck would you do that?

Last year was excellent so lets jack with it?

Because they can. Because the NCAA is happy to let someone else call the shots on what is the only major college sport that doesn't have an NCAA sanctioned and operated playoff. This despite the fact that football regulation - or the total lack thereof - was the sole reason for creating the NCAA.

It's time to cut the Bowl games/Sunbelt Chambers of Commerce/Tourist Bureaus out of the role of deciding a true national champion for football and to put it squarely on the shoulders of the NCAA.

 

[Zurp]

It's time to cut the Bowl games/Sunbelt Chambers of Commerce/Tourist Bureaus out of the role of deciding a true national champion for football and to put it squarely on the shoulders of the NCAA.

You'd put Ralph Wiggum in Montgomery Burns's position?

 

[cincibuck]

You'd put Ralph Wiggum in Montgomery Burns's position?

So do I trust the NCAA more than Colonel Cornpone? Yep.

Whatever problems the NCAA has, they still manage to put together a series of fairly equitable tournaments for everything from basketball to synchronized swimming. They even do this in small school football.

The Sugar, Cotton, Rose and Orange bowls were created to meet two goals: 1. Make money for the local economy. 2. Give an extra home game to local/regional schools in order to meet goal #1.

Now that the schools have decided to create and refine a football playoff system. That system should address the need for an equitable geographic situation and dates that are convenient to the schools and TV, not the needs of the local chamber of commerce.

 

[Zurp]

Whatever the problems the NCAA has, they still manage to put together a series of fairly equitable tournaments for everything from basketball to synchronized swimming. They even do this in small school football.

No argument from me, but mostly because I don't know anything about synchronized swimming or small school football or any other sports, and only very little about basketball. But the few complaints I hear about the basketball tournament seedings are usually caused by the fact that they're from fans of teams that aren't any good, and if they won more games, they'd be seeded better (or actually IN the tournament).

The Sugar, Cotton, Rose and Orange bowls were created to meet two goals: 1. Make money for the local economy. 2. Give an extra home game to local/regional schools in order to meet goal #1.

Now that the schools have decided to create and refine a football playoff system. That system should address the need for an equitable geographic situation and dates that are convenient to the schools and TV, not the needs of the local chamber of commerce.

I don't think I'll argue with any of this, either. I guess I just focus on the negatives. The NCAA made some kid ineligible from playing basketball because his coach shared a pizza with him after his father died. The NCAA chose to change the rules to start the game clock the moment the ball is kicked, rather than the moment it is received on kick-offs. The NCAA seems to seems to screw up everything that they get involved with.

Note that I'll admit that the NCAA is likely compared to an offensive lineman: you only hear about them when they've screwed something up. If the lineman is blocking his guy every play and never gets called for holding, the casual viewer, like me, doesn't know about him. It's when they show the replay of him missing his block, or false starts on 2 consecutive drives, or holding penalties, etc.: that's when I hear about him.

So, OK - I don't know that I mind putting Ralph Wiggum in Monty Burns's position. Monty Burns would listen to the money when making decisions. Ralph Wiggum would listen to the leprechaun who tells him to burn things; I'd imagine a lot of those Bowl games/Sunbelt Chambers of Commerce/Tourist Bureaus will get burned first.

 

[colobuck79]

I'm gonna pencil in the pinstripe bowl for the Pedsters. It will be epic!

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Vegas feels pretty confident we'll be, uh, successful this year. The over/under on how many games we'll win this season (regular season games only, not counting CCGs, bowls, etc.), is 11.5, meaning the bet is essentially whether or not we'll go undefeated. The next highest teams are TCU and Baylor at 10 games even. scum opened at 7.5.

Las Vegas sportsbook picks Ohio State Buckeyes to win 11.5 games

 

[ScriptOhio]

5DIMES: 69% CHANCE OHIO STATE MAKES COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...nce-ohio-state-makes-college-football-playoff

Early odds from Vegas: Another NCAA football championship run expected by Ohio State

The Golden Nugget has already released lines for every game of the coming season and to no one's surprise, defending national champion Ohio State is favored in every game -- by at least 14 points.

ONLY 4 Teams Favored in Every Game

1) Ohio St
favored by 14 or more in every game!!!

2) TCU
closest game is -5 at Oklahoma

3) Boise St
closest game is -6 at BYU

4) Clemson
favored by 4.5 or less in SIX Games

Entire article: http://www.mcall.com/sports/groller-blog/mc-college-football-odds-from-vegas-20150627-story.html

 

[Bill Lucas]

Well. No pressure then.

 

[Bestbuck36]

Yeah I almost hate those spreads and all of the odds.

-14 vs MSU? Going to be another slugfest most likely.

 

[BigWoof31]

-14 vs MSU? Going to be another slugfest most likely.

Outsider opinion, so take it for what it is worth.

I thought the ass kicking delivered in Lansing was Ohio State's most impressive win last year.
Yes, better than shutting out Wisconsin and beating Alabama.

I thought Sparty had an idea they were the biggest dicks at the porn shoot after their 2013 Rose Bowl win and believed they would push OSU around.
The game was basically over by the end of the 2nd.

 

[pnuts34]

Outsider opinion, so take it for what it is worth.

I thought the ass kicking delivered in Lansing was Ohio State's most impressive win last year.
Yes, better than shutting out Wisconsin and beating Alabama.

I thought Sparty had an idea they were the biggest dicks at the porn shoot after their 2013 Rose Bowl win and believed they would push OSU around.
The game was basically over by the end of the 2nd.

As much as id like to agree, IMO the biggest win last year had to be against Alabama. I know you said you had an outsider opinion and I respect that, but for almost a decade, Buckeye fans have heard constantly about SEC speed, how Buckeyes choked in big games, and wouldn't be able to handle an SEC team(let alone almighty Bama). This was probably the biggest monkey that we got off of our backs with that win. Now MSU was probably in the top 3 of wins behind the NC. We took Wisky's hearts out the minute they saw Cardale throw the bomb to Devin and when EzE took the 40yd to the house. MSU had a lot of confidence going into last year, and OSU punched them in the mouth

 

[BigWoof31]

As much as id like to agree, IMO the biggest win last year had to be against Alabama. I know you said you had an outsider opinion and I respect that, but for almost a decade, Buckeye fans have heard constantly about SEC speed, how Buckeyes choked in big games, and wouldn't be able to handle an SEC team(let alone almighty Bama). This was probably the biggest monkey that we got off of our backs with that win. Now MSU was probably in the top 3 of wins behind the NC. We took Wisky's hearts out the minute they saw Cardale throw the bomb to Devin and when EzE took the 40yd to the house. MSU had a lot of confidence going into last year, and OSU punched them in the mouth

Fair point - I can't imagine how satisfying it must have felt in New Orleans.

 

[Zurp]

Outsider opinion, so take it for what it is worth.

I thought the ass kicking delivered in Lansing was Ohio State's most impressive win last year.
Yes, better than shutting out Wisconsin and beating Alabama.

I thought Sparty had an idea they were the biggest dicks at the porn shoot after their 2013 Rose Bowl win and believed they would push OSU around.
The game was basically over by the end of the 2nd.

Beating Michigan State was nice, but I'd agree with pnuts:

As much as id like to agree, IMO the biggest win last year had to be against Alabama. I know you said you had an outsider opinion and I respect that, but for almost a decade, Buckeye fans have heard constantly about SEC speed, how Buckeyes choked in big games, and wouldn't be able to handle an SEC team(let alone almighty Bama). This was probably the biggest monkey that we got off of our backs with that win. Now MSU was probably in the top 3 of wins behind the NC. We took Wisky's hearts out the minute they saw Cardale throw the bomb to Devin and when EzE took the 40yd to the house. MSU had a lot of confidence going into last year, and OSU punched them in the mouth

EVERY highlight video on Youtube starts with Ohio State losing to Michigan State in the championship game. And that was a team on the inside track to play for a national championship. 2014, playing at Michigan State, with our "Heisman-caliber quarterback" done before the season started, it was a really nice win to get. But I didn't think the playoffs was a likely dream. I was just hoping for a conference championship at that point. And that road went through Michigan State. So that win was really nice.

But that game was not over in the first half. (Unless you meant by the end of the second half.) We've all seen games where one team dominates one half and the other dominates the other half. Ohio State had just scored to take their first lead. Before that, they were a holding call (which was the right call, but we've all seen "right" calls not get called) away from being down 14 points. Michigan State missed the field goal, Ohio State responded by tying the score and then a deep touchdown gave them the lead. But Michigan State got the ball to start the second half.

All I ever hear on national radio shows is how Ohio State can't hang with the SEC. 0-9 against the SEC in bowl games became "0-9 against the SEC" (leaving out the "in bowl games" part). That may have become 0-10 or even 0-11. Then Ohio State beats Arkansas and it's quickly "if our player did this, we would have won". (Like that's relevant.) Then it became "Ohio State used ineligible players". (I argue that that was the only game those players were actually eligible to play in.) So Ohio State finally gets that monkey off their back. They finally get the whole country off their back. Michigan State was probably favored to beat Ohio State, but Ohio State always feels like they should beat Michigan State. Ohio State should always beat everyone in the Big Ten, for that matter. Beating Alabama - King of the SEC - felt much much much better.