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Colonoscopy 2.0 and skirts

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I don't want to turn this into a political discussion. However, we all have grown up thinking American medical care was the world standard. You pay three to ten times as much as most countries for prescription drugs. There are some fantastic hospitals, but you pay an even higher multiple for the same surgery. Debating the outcomes of medical treatment in court has become a major industry. I shuddered the first time I went to India and when I read case studies such as Aravind Eye Hospitals. Then I saw that they achieved better cataract outcomes in all respects lining people up in beds and proceeding like an assembly line...while doing half of the surgeries for free. All of this is couched in a "free market" argument, when there is nothing free about that market.

DubCoffman62 said:
I accompanied a friend into a nursing home to see an elderly relative. Half of the orderlies looked like they were on work release. I think if I ever get to the point that I need one of those facilities I'd rather get in my car parked in my garage and turn the ignition and sit there until I fall into my final sleep.
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Sounds like a great Friday night...oh, wait, "final sleep"? Nevermind.

 
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Steve19 said:
I don't want to turn this into a political discussion. However, we all have grown up thinking American medical care was the world standard. You pay three to ten times as much as most countries for prescription drugs. There are some fantastic hospitals, but you pay an even higher multiple for the same surgery. Debating the outcomes of medical treatment in court has become a major industry. I shuddered the first time I went to India and when I read case studies such as Aravind Eye Hospitals. Then I saw that they achieved better cataract outcomes in all respects lining people up in beds and proceeding like an assembly line...while doing half of the surgeries for free. All of this is couched in a "free market" argument, when there is nothing free about that market.




Sounds like a great Friday night...oh, wait, "final sleep"? Nevermind.

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US health insurance companies are the ultimate rent-seekers. They provide no economic efficiencies (evidence says they add massive inefficiencies to the system) and only seek to plant themselves in the middle of an economic activity and skim as large a percentage as they can. Their business model is more akin to that of the mafia than it is to a productive industry,

BTW, my second retina went three weeks ago today. Had the surgery the following Monday. Surgery and one night in the hospital for observation = 33K. I have decent insurance with a low out of pocket max, so I'm OK, but god help people with shitty ACA policies. Oh well, guess this means that next month's cataract surgery on the other eye is all on Blue Cross. FUBCBS!
 
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Had my first colonoscopy last week. I was a little nervous about the "twilight" anesthesia. I thought I'd be conscious of what they were doing, but I was out like a light and woke up feeling like nothing had been done. Funny, how this made me feel psychologically uneasy beforehand, but when being wheeled in to have my eyeball sewn back together again, I was perfectly calm.
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I've had 4 and everyone should know they were "a piece of cake". You are "out" and feel nothing. My last one:
Dr: Ready to start now?
Me: OK
Me: What I think is a just a minute or so later....When are you going to start?
Dr: I just finished.

You do wake up feeling like nothing had been done, with the exception of farting in the recovery room..... :lol: Now the only inconvenience is the night before when you have to drink a couple quarts of something that literally flushes you out. It doesn't hurt; but you are on and off the crapper over a 4 to 6 hour period.

Twice I had a couple small polyps removed. The biopsies revealed they weren't cancerous (yet). Remember the disclaimers in Cologuard's commercials; say they can have false negatives and positives. They aren't 100% accurate. A colonoscopy is the way to go; if they find a polyp, they remove it right then.

Colorectal Cancer Guideline | How Often to Have Screening Tests

Learn about colorectal cancer screening tests and at what age you should start them. Find out if you might be at high risk and may need a colonoscopy sooner.
www.cancer.org www.cancer.org

For people at average risk​

The American Cancer Society recommends that people at average risk* of colorectal cancer start regular screening at age 45. This can be done either with a sensitive test that looks for signs of cancer in a person’s stool (a stool-based test), or with an exam that looks at the colon and rectum (a visual exam). These options are listed below.

People who are in good health and with a life expectancy of more than 10 years should continue regular colorectal cancer screening through age 75.

For people ages 76 through 85, the decision to be screened should be based on a person’s preferences, life expectancy, overall health, and prior screening history.

People over age 85 should no longer get colorectal cancer screening.

*For screening, people are considered to be at average risk if they do not have:
  • A personal history of colorectal cancer or certain types of polyps
  • A family history of colorectal cancer
  • A personal history of inflammatory bowel disease (ulcerative colitis or Crohn’s disease)
  • A confirmed or suspected hereditary colorectal cancer syndrome, such as familial adenomatous polyposis (FAP) or Lynch syndrome (hereditary non-polyposis colon cancer or HNPCC)
 
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ScriptOhio said:
I've had 4 and everyone should know they were "a piece of cake". You are "out" and feel nothing. My last one:
Dr: Ready to start now?
Me: OK
Me: What I think is a just a minute or so later....When are you going to start?
Dr: I just finished.

You do wake up feeling like nothing had been done, with the exception of farting in the recovery room..... :lol: Now the only inconvenience is the night before when you have to drink a couple quarts of something that literally flushes you out. It doesn't hurt; but you are on and off the crapper over a 4 to 6 hour period.

Twice I had a couple small polyps removed. The biopsies revealed they weren't cancerous (yet). Remember the disclaimers in Cologuard's commercials; say they can have false negatives and positives. They aren't 100% accurate. A colonoscopy is the way to go; if the find a polyp, they remove it right then.

Colorectal Cancer Guideline | How Often to Have Screening Tests

Learn about colorectal cancer screening tests and at what age you should start them. Find out if you might be at high risk and may need a colonoscopy sooner.
www.cancer.org www.cancer.org

For people at average risk​

The American Cancer Society recommends that people at average risk* of colorectal cancer start regular screening at age 45. This can be done either with a sensitive test that looks for signs of cancer in a person’s stool (a stool-based test), or with an exam that looks at the colon and rectum (a visual exam). These options are listed below.

People who are in good health and with a life expectancy of more than 10 years should continue regular colorectal cancer screening through age 75.

For people ages 76 through 85, the decision to be screened should be based on a person’s preferences, life expectancy, overall health, and prior screening history.

People over age 85 should no longer get colorectal cancer screening.

*For screening, people are considered to be at average risk if they do not have:
  • A personal history of colorectal cancer or certain types of polyps
  • A family history of colorectal cancer
  • A personal history of inflammatory bowel disease (ulcerative colitis or Crohn’s disease)
  • A confirmed or suspected hereditary colorectal cancer syndrome, such as familial adenomatous polyposis (FAP) or Lynch syndrome (hereditary non-polyposis colon cancer or HNPCC)
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Listen up folks!
 
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I have had 4 (or 5?). I have had at least one polyp removed in every one. None were cancerous, but could have become cancerous. The actual colonoscopy is a piece of cake. The stuff you have to drink is not a lot of fun. What my gastroenterologist uses has you drink one large dose the night before and one 4-6 hours before the procedure. So, if you get the first 7am appointment, you set your alarm for 3am to drink a bunch of stuff and spend a couple of hours on the pot. BUT, a lot less of an issue than colon cancer. Just do it.
 
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So I get these odd ideas, right? Well these ideas tend to make me think that I am brilliant while simultaneously convincing others that I am either a freak or an idiot.

Here is one of those ideas.

I have to get a colonoscopy soon. Obviously the idea of this is a bit, well, uncomfortable. To make matters worse, you have to drink gallons of anti-freeze type stuff before you go in so that you are clean and pretty inside for the butt-doctor.

Here is my plan: I will drink the drain-o, but before I go in for the butt-scope I will also swallow a Lego figure.

I love the idea of the doctor scoping through my colon, with everything on TV (that is what they do), and then suddenly running into a Lego guy, hopefully with gun raised and looking like he is about to attack. . .

So: Good idea or bad idea?
 
Footlong Steak and Cheese sub on Monterrey Cheddar bread with extra cheese. Add lettuce, onion, green pepper, banana peppers, extra southwest sauce, mayo, oil, vinegar, salt & pepper. That's for lunch.

12 hot boneless wings with a side of blue cheese. Thats supper.

That's my version of a colonoscopy.

...On your question. It's a bad idea, but do it anyway.
 
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why stop at one?

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