Columbus Symphony Shutting Down

[Jimmy Carter]

 

[jwinslow]

I guess we won't be as cultured as you now

 

[IronBuckI]

They should have just opened for The 17th floor everytime they played at Flannagan's and they probably wouldn't have this problem.

 

[Gatorubet]

I guess we won't be as cultured as you now

Now?

 

[cincibuck]

Let me be the first to revive the joke: What's the difference between Columbus and Dannon yogurt?

Dannon yogurt has culture.

 

[FKAGobucks877]

To be fair, the average annual salary for a member of the Columbus Symphony Orchestra is about 60% of that for a member of the Cincinnati Orchestra.

That's actually pretty good, considering they only have 40% of the talent.

 

[Buckeye Buh Nim]

This makes me sad.

First date with my wife was Picnic with the Pops.

 

[gregorylee]

I saw their tribute to "The Game" a couple of years ago, it was a pretty good time.

 

[Jake]

Yeah, because you know who makes a shitload of money? Professional musicians.

And how much do they make when they refuse to renegotiate their contract to keep their costs within the means of their employer?

You can't demand more than the value produced by your work without consequences. Having negotiated five contracts with unions I've seen first hand how they refuse to accept reality when it contradicts with their desires. When they persist in that bent for too long, you get what's happening to the Symphony.

 

[jwinslow]

So I take it you have experience negotiating with symphonies and their budgets, and aren't just talking out of your hat?

 

[Oh8ch]

First date with my wife was Picnic with the Pops.

I will miss the pops. They gotta find a way to save the pops - even if it means pulling in another orchestra from somewhere.

 

[Gatorubet]

I will miss the pops. They gotta find a way to save the pops - even if it means pulling in another orchestra from somewhere.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

And how much do they make when they refuse to renegotiate their contract to keep their costs within the means of their employer?

You can't demand more than the value produced by your work without consequences. Having negotiated five contracts with unions I've seen first hand how they refuse to accept reality when it contradicts with their desires. When they persist in that bent for too long, you get what's happening to the Symphony.

The members offered a 6% drop in salary and it was refused. The suggested it go to arbitration and it was refused. I agree that the union has to negotiate, but maybe the symphony should figure out how to manage their money a little bit better, too.

Pinning this solely on the fact that the musicians are in a union is a joke.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Maybe they would attract enough interest from customers and patrons if they brought the salaries to a level where they were competing for competent musicians.

Maybe not.

If so, another poorly run business goes down. It won't be the last time.

If not, the market will not bear an orchestra in Columbus. Oh well.

I suspect that if the latter is true, then Columbus will not be the last city to see their orchestra swirl into the commode of history.

 

[jazzman]

Dispatch



:(

It is sad indeed. I saw them accompany John Williams some time last year....it was a terrific time. I hope they figure out a way to save the orchestra.