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First BCS released 10/17

what would we prefer? uh....

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I'm not arguing against a tournament. I think a tournament is the way to go. But I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. For some silly reason, money is very powerful in college football, and the bowls currently control it. The BCS is just a step up from the old system of everyone going to who-knows-what bowl.

But a tournament would be pretty friggin' sweet. Not only would it shut all the teams up who complain about not getting a shot at the NC, but it would extend my chances to watch more college football.
 
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I'm not arguing against a tournament. I think a tournament is the way to go. But I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. For some silly reason, money is very powerful in college football, and the bowls currently control it. The BCS is just a step up from the old system of everyone going to who-knows-what bowl.

But a tournament would be pretty friggin' sweet. Not only would it shut all the teams up who complain about not getting a shot at the NC, but it would extend my chances to watch more college football.

Zurp, did you drink less than normal this weekend? You're posts are making a lot more sense to me lately.
 
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I'm wondering if UT will be able to hold onto the #2 spot even if they win out. I'm not saying that they don't deserve to be there, b/c I think they do (they might even be the #1 team in the nation right now in my mind). However, their SOS is going to really, really hurt them vis-a-vis Va. Tech. For example, by the end of the season, we might be the only ranked team they've defeated.
 
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Texas Tech at #7 is a joke. I watched the game against NU and I'll admit that that was an admirable come-from-behind win. However, we all know that neither NU nor KSU are the forces that they have been in the past. And they should be ashamed of their first three games. In my mind, they are 3-0 against three teams that can be classified as decent at best. I think they belong somewhere between 15-20, notwithstanding their record.
 
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What would you prefer? No BCS and let the bowls invite whoever they want to invite, and then you have 2-4 teams who all claim they were national champions?

The BCS isn't perfect. There are a few things that I would love to change/add/delete. But they've gotten the pointy end of the stick the last couple of years, with 3 1-loss teams in 2003, and 3 undefeated teams in 2004. The BCS figured which 2 teams should play in the BCS National Championship game, and then you get a team of crybabies who didn't make that bowl game. It's better than before the BCS, when all three teams would have played in three different bowls, and they'd all be crybabies, insisting that they should be called "National Champions."

(By the way, I'm sure I'd be one of those crybabies if Ohio State gets shut out of the National Championship Bowl Game.)

Like I said, I don't think the BCS is perfect. But I don't think it "needs to go" anywhere.

i would prefer an 8 team playoff for the first 4 BCS games then creat new games for the remaining 3 and then use any other poll system to determine who plays in the remaining bowl games(cotton, holiday etc, bowl). i feel confident the champion is in the top 8 and it seems to work out rather well considering bowl week is from december to january and under this format it would take 3 weeks to get a champion.

in example using the current teams.
1. Southern California 25 25 24 24 25 25
2. Texas 24 23 22 25 24 24
3. Virginia Tech 23 22 20 21 22 23
4. Georgia 22 24 25 23 23 22
5. Alabama 21 12 23 22 21 21
6. LSU 16 19 14 19 17 13
7. Texas Tech 18 20 19 18 20 16
8. Miami (Fla.) 13 18 11 11 14 12

#1 vs #8-rose bowl
#2 vs #7-fiesta bowl
#3 vs #6-sugar bowl
#4 vs #5-orange bowl

have these games the last weekend in december and you still have bowl bids so everybody is happy. for the remaining 3 games implement new bowl names and bids or vice cersa and just move things around. if anything this system would create MORE bowl bids. now teams like UCLA and "random ranked team" could play in the cotton bowl using the current format. i have never seen how this idea could do anything but help.
 
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Texas Tech at #7 is a joke. I watched the game against NU and I'll admit that that was an admirable come-from-behind win. However, we all know that neither NU nor KSU are the forces that they have been in the past. And they should be ashamed of their first three games. In my mind, they are 3-0 against three teams that can be classified as decent at best. I think they belong somewhere between 15-20, notwithstanding their record.

Was the admirable part when the Nebraska defender who picked off the game-sealing interception tried to run with it instead of falling down? And Texas Tech blew a big lead in that game before needing the late drive to win. I discounted their first 3 games, but still had to put them in the top 10 this week. I think an undefeated team, even with only 3 so-so opponents, should be ahead of a 2-loss team like tOSU or ND. Now depending on how badly they get destroyed by Texas this week, I'll drop them like a rock.
 
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i would prefer an 8 team playoff for the first 4 BCS games then creat new games for the remaining 3 and then use any other poll system to determine who plays in the remaining bowl games(cotton, holiday etc, bowl). i feel confident the champion is in the top 8 and it seems to work out rather well considering bowl week is from december to january and under this format it would take 3 weeks to get a champion.

in example using the current teams.
1. Southern California 25 25 24 24 25 25
2. Texas 24 23 22 25 24 24
3. Virginia Tech 23 22 20 21 22 23
4. Georgia 22 24 25 23 23 22
5. Alabama 21 12 23 22 21 21
6. LSU 16 19 14 19 17 13
7. Texas Tech 18 20 19 18 20 16
8. Miami (Fla.) 13 18 11 11 14 12

#1 vs #8-rose bowl
#2 vs #7-fiesta bowl
#3 vs #6-sugar bowl
#4 vs #5-orange bowl

have these games the last weekend in december and you still have bowl bids so everybody is happy. for the remaining 3 games implement new bowl names and bids or vice cersa and just move things around. if anything this system would create MORE bowl bids. now teams like UCLA and "random ranked team" could play in the cotton bowl using the current format. i have never seen how this idea could do anything but help.
OK - just for shits and giggles lets say the top 8 pan out as above.

That's 2 ACC teams, 2 Big 12 Teams, 3 SEC Teams and 1 PAC 10 team.

Just putting on the parochial hat of the Big 10 for the moment - how does this help the Big 10 reel in its "share" of bowl money, let alone the Big Least champ - should they maintain an adequate ranking.

See, that is the one of two (and the primary) flaw with the arrangement you propose.

Money.

And the inequitable distribution of the same.

True, these things DO even out over time, so you could have years in which the PAC10 and Big 10 dominate at the expense of other conferences. But the fear of being left out in the cold vs a guaranteed pay-off would stop the Conference Commissioners dead in their tracks. The Commissioners would probably couch this in high sounding language defending the rights of the hard fought champion of a Conference not in that slate of 8 to get a look in with their guaranteed bowl berth. But that's largely a smoke screen, its really about dollars and cents, follow the money.

Which brings me to the second, lesser flaw. You have created above a set of secondary bowls, leading up to the bigger semi-finals and championship game. In a situation where one region or two dominates that top 8 this makes for less interesting viewing of the bowl games themselves - not for obsessed fans such as those on boards like these, but rather for the holiday viewing traffic that boosts ratings. Which of course has an impact on many factors, including TV revenues, which leads back to, money.
There probably is a way to overcome that fear factor in the minds of the Commissioners, but it isnt going to be an easy sell.
 
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In my perfect little world you have the Champ of each conference get an auto Bid.

B10
B12
SEC
Pac 10
ACC

Plus 2 at large berths.

The Big Least, MWC, WAC and MAC can all go have some kind of play in type thing for the right to get mauled by #1. I don't really give a fuck because they can't win anyway.

Use the BCS formula to rank 1-8 and seed accordingly. Higher ranked team gets home game. NC game is neutral site. Fun is over for the warm weather teams and their unfair advantage in Bowl games.

Keep the lesser Bowls as sort of an NIT for teams who don't make the final 8.

Of course this means ND has to join the B10 and have a playoff, which forever alters The Game, but the older I get the more OK with that I am. Nothing will ever dampen the intensity of the rivalry even if it wouldn't always be the last game of the year.

I love the tradition and all but I'm pretty sick of the status quo in CFB, everything must change eventually we need a playoff to settle this shit once and for all.
 
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In my perfect little world you have the Champ of each conference get an auto Bid.

B10
B12
SEC
Pac 10
ACC

Plus 2 at large berths.

The Big Least, MWC, WAC and MAC can all go have some kind of play in type thing for the right to get mauled by #1. I don't really give a fuck because they can't win anyway.

Use the BCS formula to rank 1-8 and seed accordingly. Higher ranked team gets home game. NC game is neutral site. Fun is over for the warm weather teams and their unfair advantage in Bowl games.

Keep the lesser Bowls as sort of an NIT for teams who don't make the final 8.

I'm willing to make you Bowl Czar for that scenario, Jax!!
 
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