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He did play for us. His name was Mike Doss.
Great player but he had limits to his game and was as much of a top 10 pick as I was.
Peppers is a very good run stopping safety and great return man but being a safety with coverage issues is a problem.
His kick return threat is easily negated by directional kicking so don't kick to him in the middle of the field and don't give him a chance to blow up WR screens. Make him fair catch punts along the sideline and cover slot receivers deep and he's a lot less of an impact player.
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Good points but we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Now something we can all agree on,........the Reds sucking.
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Doss's career numbers:
331 tackles - 33 TFL - 6 sacks - 8 INT - 12 PBU - 4 FF - 7 FR - 2 blocks - 4 defensive TD (Buckeye team record)
Doss was a three-time All American (unanimous in 2002).
Doss led the Buckeyes in tackles in 2000 (94) and 2001 (87); he also led in TFLs in 2001 (10).
Doss may have had some "coverage issues" (size issues were more of a problem in the NFL), but he was a big time playmaker who had a nose for the football.
Peppers has yet to prove that he can make game-changing plays on defense, and he has had very few on offense and special teams.
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Bruh, he's not even the best DB on his own team. He's over blown because of the ranking he brought with him from high school. Dude is hella fucking average, he can't cover a fucking mailbox.
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I don't think he gets credit for his athleticism. He lived after Zeke blew him up, didn't he? That was something. Then there was the dramatic speed he showed in picking up his jock strap and pounding the ground after Barrett blew by him.
He's an artist.
He's an artist.
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Cie Grant is the Buckeye I'd compare Peppers to. About the same size (6' 0" 228 lbs at NFL combine). Super athlete without a position - began as a CB, moved to safety, finally found a home at OLB on the 2002 NC team. Was a third round draft pick.Well I was going to say Donnie Nickey but I didn't want to push it.
Peppers gets unlimited hype being at Michigan. He'd get zero hype at Ohio State because he wouldn't stand out on this Buckeye defense. In this respect he is also similar to Grant, who was surrounded by All Americans like Doss, Will Smith, Will Allen, Matt Wilhelm and other guys who were high NFL draft picks (Chris Gamble [1st]; Tim Anderson [3rd]; Kenny Peterson [3rd]; Darrion Scott [3rd]; Dustin Fox [3rd]).
Peppers will almost certainly be an All American (Michigan's first since 2011), and he might even earn some sort of post-season award. Whether he becomes a high draft pick will be based almost solely on his combine performance. By way of comparison, Buckeye LB Darron Lee measured 6' 1", 232 lbs, ran a 4.47 forty, and a 4.20 shuttle. That's the benchmark for a first round hybrid safety/OLB (and Lee also proved to be a playmaker in college, with 27.5 TFL, 12 sacks, and 3 defensive TDs in just two seasons). I doubt that Peppers can match Lee's combine numbers.
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UpNorth_Buckeye
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I'd take him in the first round, but certainly not the top third of the 1st round. Probably last third.
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UpNorth_Buckeye
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Mostly potential combined with the way the NFL has moved. I could see him be like a Thomas davis for the Panthers. Late first round isn't a crazy position to take him. Late first, maybe slide early second.
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