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LB K'Vaughan Pope (transfer to Tenn St)

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bukIpower said:
No... it speaks to the "ah who knows" approach we took all year.

This is what no depth chart gets you. Frustrated kids that don't know where they stand.

Spare me that they knew better because they didn't. Both Gant and Pope played along with Mitchell the past 3 year and played in basically every game this year. Hit kids with it straight and don't BS them and we probably get this in the spring.

Then the hundreds of reps they took from our starters to back to our best players. Play the best players and let everyone know where they stand. THAT'S THE MISTAKE that's being made for no depth chart.
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we lost all four guys that took any meaningful snaps last year.

Your point assumes that there was any kind of obvious answers as to who the best players were and given our play at LB this year, it seems pretty clear we have a glut of guys at roughly the same level and any differences in their play is only really coming to light in game action, which you can’t really replicate outside of the season.

it’s a shitty situation but it’s something that has to sort itself out when nobody is really jumping off the page as “the best”

In the spring, it’s very likely they were depending on Pope and Gant and reports from around then kind of indicated such.

I don’t think anyone would blame Pope if he decided tomorrow or Monday to enter the portal. To quit in the middle of the game is clownish and immature.
 
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bukIpower said:
Well we wouldn't have kids attempting to get on the field and when they're told no they quit now would we?

Pope clearly had no idea where he stood or else he wouldn't have tried to get on the field.
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He was waved off by Mitchell, not the coaches. Your complaint was about the depth chart, which is set by the coaches. You really go out of your way looking for problems. It has to be exhausting. It is for me, and I'm just reading your posts.
 
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I'll end by saying: Welcome to the real world K'Vaughan Pope and Dallas Gant. You don't get playing time just because it's your turn, you have to earn it. Anybody out there have a job where a younger and/or person with less years experience got the promotion you wanted? It happened all the time to people where I worked for 32 years (i.e. Defense Supply Center Columbus). It was called a "merit promotion program", not just promote some guy whose turn it is to get the promotion. As a matter of fact there is a Federal law that required us to do it that way.
 
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bukIpower said:
There's no route other for him to go... a running back passed him up on the depth chart.
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Man, that's life. In a nutshell, things dont always go your way. You dont learn from shit when it's all going good it's the failures and bad times that teach the most. If his reaction is any indication, life is going to kick him in the dick.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
Man, that's life. In a nutshell, things dont always go your way. You dont learn from shit when it's all going good it's the failures and bad times that teach the most. If his reaction is any indication, life is going to kick him in the dick.
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Yep you can't control everything in life but you can control your reaction to it. His reaction was piss poor
 
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Good riddens. I get frustration of not playing, I even understand the confusion of when or if you are playing and where you stand. You DO NOT walk out on your team, and you do not blast your school of social media. No excuse. He could have quietly entered the transfer portal, like an adult.

Some mediocre D1 school will take him on, but with an attitude like that, good luck to him wherever he goes to play.
 
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Poor choice by Pope. I don't know the backstory. Perhaps he had a legitimate reason to be pissed off by feeling misled or something, or it could just be him blowing a fuse because he felt entitled to the reps he hasn't earned, or anything in between. Doesn't matter, it's a bad look. Teams at all levels of play want players who can keep their composure and resolve the issues in-house, even if they are exiting from a program in disagreement.

It could be an anomaly, but now it kicks the door open for speculation about how staff is managing expectations, morale and all that stuff. The narratives will be crafted even if the staff was managing everything to perfection behind the scenes.

Handling it this way is bad for everyone, which means he dropped his odds of finding the grass is greener on the other side.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Yes there is, I'll make the same comment I made on Dallas Gant:

I guess that if you are a Jr and/or Sr and behind a couple guys that are Fr and/or Soph(s) on the depth cart, or not even on the depth cart; you could be a candidate for the transfer portal or just quit the team during a game. However, these guys should also consider "life after football". If you can't break the 2 deep at Ohio State just maybe 1) you aren't going to make it in the NFL either and 2) you should stay at Ohio State and concentrate on getting your degree in a career field that offers a good financial future.
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This. My son is in the recruiting game for baseball and rule #1 is to find a school that you'll be happy to stay at and get your degree if baseball doesn't work out. He absolutely understands it and embraces it. He's 16.

So, while I understand the frustration and the fact Pope is still just a kid himself, he isn't a victim here and he handled it poorly.
 
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