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LOTR, Hobbit geek-fest

muffler dragon;2174442; said:
Is this cat independently wealthy or does he make enough money from his models to support this activity?

I wish I had an answer. I know he's sold some of his larger models to Ripley's Believe it or Not to be displayed at their museums worldwide. There is also a museum in Iowa (Where he resides) that displays his models, so I'm sure he gets some kind of bonus from that. Whether he does this as a profession I do not know, but it's pretty cool nonetheless.
 
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It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made. Recently Fran, Phil and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie - and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ?yes.'

We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance. The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.

So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of "The Hobbit" films, I'd like to announce that two films will become three.

It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, "a tale that grew in the telling."

Cheers,

Peter J
Oh for fecks' sake Pete. How about you give us less of your bloated crap burying Tolkien's There & Back Again rather than more?

Third 'Hobbit' movie confirmed for summer 2014
 
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I have mixed feelings about this. To an extent I'm concerned that Jackson will mess this up like he messed up the LOTR, but at the same time, I'm greedy and think that more Tolkien-esque movies are a good thing.

If he did everything as well as he did the character of Smeagol/Gollum, I would have no problem with Peter Jackson. Here's hoping this gets better, not worse.
 
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Muck;2187219; said:
Oh for fecks' sake Pete. How about you give us less of your bloated crap burying Tolkien's There & Back Again rather than more?

Too bad they seem to have missed this line in the last chapter of the Hobbit: "As all things come to an end, even this story"

No good will come of this.
 
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knapplc;2187225; said:
I have mixed feelings about this. To an extent I'm concerned that Jackson will mess this up like he messed up the LOTR, but at the same time, I'm greedy and think that more Tolkien-esque movies are a good thing.

If he did everything as well as he did the character of Smeagol/Gollum, I would have no problem with Peter Jackson. Here's hoping this gets better, not worse.

Remember that Jackson only has the rights to The Hobbit. So anything regarding the Necromancer/Dol Guldur from Unfinished Tales or The Silmarillion (Christopher Tolkien will never sell the rights to any of his father's other works) can't be used.

That means it all of it will be completely new material.

LoTR runs about 1,400 pages (in mass market paperback form) & The Hobbit clocks in at just over 300.

There's going to be a lot of Jackson bloat.

buckeyegrad;2187287; said:
Too bad they seem to have missed this line in the last chapter of the Hobbit: "As all things come to an end, even this story"

No good will come of this.

I can hardly wait for the 6 movie adaptation of Leaf by Niggle.
 
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Muck;2187678; said:
Remember that Jackson only has the rights to The Hobbit. So anything regarding the Necromancer/Dol Guldur from Unfinished Tales or The Silmarillion (Christopher Tolkien will never sell the rights to any of his father's other works) can't be used.

That means it all of it will be completely new material.

From that article you quoted earlier, it sounds like they're using the appendices and other sources:

It's not yet clear how the material from "The Hobbit" and the "Lord of the Rings" appendices, which Jackson is also adapting, will be divided among the three movies. In addition, the filmmaker and studios will need to determine how much additional footage is needed and how much already shot will simply be spread out more than originally planned.
 
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knapplc;2187784; said:
From that article you quoted earlier, it sounds like they're using the appendices and other sources:

"Other" sources would not include anything by Prof Tolkien. Tolkien licensed the rights to The Hobbit & The Lord of the Rings a few years before his death. Those are the only two of his works that have ever been optioned....or will ever be optioned at least as long as Christopher Tolkien is alive & has a say.

Since they were published with Return of the King the Appendices are of course included in the licensed works. That being said we are mainly talking about timelines & lists of names. So yes Jackson will be able to pull the date that Gandalf & the White Council kicked Suaron out Dol Guldur but the actual dialogue and narration will be all Jackson. The weakest part of the original films were when Jackson went off on his own imaginings...adding two films worth of such does not bode well IMO. They may be decent movies...but they won't be The Hobbit.

I don't really care if Peter Jackson does his own Tolkien 'inspired' movies. I just want an untouched version of The Hobbit first.

On the other hand I'm sure the Shire Calender will be very useful.
 
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Muck;2187836; said:
"Other" sources would not include anything by Prof Tolkien. Tolkien licensed the rights to The Hobbit & The Lord of the Rings a few years before his death. Those are the only two of his works that have ever been optioned....or will ever be optioned at least as long as Christopher Tolkien is alive & has a say.

Since they were published with Return of the King the Appendices are of course included in the licensed works. That being said we are mainly talking about timelines & lists of names. So yes Jackson will be able to pull the date that Gandalf & the White Council kicked Suaron out Dol Guldur but the actual dialogue and narration will be all Jackson. The weakest part of the original films were when Jackson went off on his own imaginings...adding two films worth of such does not bode well IMO. They may be decent movies...but they won't be The Hobbit.

I don't really care if Peter Jackson does his own Tolkien 'inspired' movies. I just want an untouched version of The Hobbit first.

On the other hand I'm sure the Shire Calender will be very useful.

I see where you're coming from, and I agree. Jackson is nowhere near Tolkien's equal when it comes to storytelling, so yeah, those fill-in-the-blank moments could be grim.
 
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As long as they have Glamdring and Orcrist (Beater and Biter) in it I'm happy. Orcrist was buried with Thoren Oakenshield, and Glamdring hung at Gandalf's side throughout the rest of the trilogy.

Vaguely remember Tom Bombadil, and the implications that he was all powerful, but not sure why he didn't just go to Mordor and beat up on Sauron once and for all......Knap, do you think we can make millions from a movie about that? Maybe they delve into Gollum's beginnings, that's plenty of filler.....

OK, who can name the two other versions of the Hobbit that were movies?

:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger:
 
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