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OL Justin Boren (Official Thread)

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as countless people have played at West Virginia and many others are still playing at Michigan without Rodriguez destroying their will to play there.
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Sorry, but there are a LOT of RR players (at WVU, Glenville State, etc) who fit this to the T, and I heard about plenty of these tales long before Appalachian State.
And yes, I think his "eroded family values" statement is a cop-out. To what, exactly, is he referring?
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Ridiculing kids at practice for having a virus? Shaming players constantly?
If Michigan football was a family, as he said, his family members are still there. His former teammates. Going to OSU shows that he now holds them in less than no regard. It says, I not only want to leave you, I want to beat you so bad that I'll go to the one place where it's not only most likely, it's expected of me, and I'll pay my own money for the chance to do it.
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The irony of these statements never fails, given that this rivalry was made by exactly this type of 'turning against family'. I don't blame Bo for taking the position he did, but it was his initimate knowledge and tutelage under Woody that made him such a lethal foe, and able to dismantle one of the greatest CFB teams of all time in 1969.

Bo took everything he learned from Woody, everything Woody believed in... and used it against him.

Did the rivalry mean "that little" to Bo? His friendship to Woody?
 
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HailToMichigan;1147919; said:
That's true, it's not. It's worse. He ran out on the team when it was down and sorely lacking in players with his specific skills - and then went to the one place where he can do the most damage. The person you're referring to sacrificed a moment in the spotlight (the good kind of spotlight). The one I'm referring to sacrificed his teammates because he didn't like being yelled at.
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You. Have. Got. To. Be. Fucking. Kidding.

HTM, for the most part I understand your need to defend your new coach, I just take exception with the thickness of the blinders you wear while doing it. This, however, is the most assinine thing you have typed by far. Period. Comparing one offensive lineman, granted, the best returning OL, leaving in the in the spring compared to a coach shunning over 80 kids he recruited and coached, and just a year earlier pledged his continued loyalty to, just before the biggest game of the year is beyond absolutely absurd. Then to have the balls to say he did so while sacrificing his "moment in the spotlight" as if it was an actual sacrifice on his part. Good God.

HailToMichigan;1147910; said:
I mean, even Rodriguez gave some pretty specific ideas as to why he left West Virginia. He laid them out.
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Yeah, laid them out really well. He had a grievance with parts of his contract not being honored, verbal parts he claims, but wants to go to court so he doesn't have to honor his part...which was actually included in ink in the signed contract. He's done a bang-up job. :roll1:


jenkinswoody;1147978; said:
The real irony is that they are basically saying the same thing about WVU fans and Rod!?
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Which is the most hysterical part of this whole story. They'll defend the douchebag that skipped out on 80 something kids (family values?), but the OL that was too fat and too slow is a piece of shit. Yep, got it. :roll1:

HailToMichigan;1147989; said:
If closer to home was the primary concern, and he felt any loyalty at all to his teammates and to Michigan, there are several other Ohio schools. Do none of them offer anything to be proud of? Is Brian Kelly failing at Cincy? Is Akron simply too far away? Yes, OSU is both a better program than all, and closer to home. But there's a little bit of a rivalry between the schools. Apparently that rivalry means very little to J****n B***n.
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Perhaps Justin wants a career in the NFL. Does he stand as good a shot at Akron or Cinci as he does at tOSU? Didn't think so.

Steve19;1148036; said:
In fairness to HTM, we'd be livid if one of our OL left us and went to AA to play for TSUN, but it isn't that simple.
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Absolutely, and I can see why they're upset. But when you have a shitbag coach that did far worse months earlier as the main cause of him defecting, you don't have a leg to stand on. Especially when the fanbase as a whole has so heavily criticized wvu fans for behaving the same way.

3074326;1148102; said:
Jim Rome is going to speak about Boren in a moment.. should be terrible. I'll edit my post when he's done making my ears bleed.

EDIT: Bashed everyone, but insulted Boren more than anyone.
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Jim Rome is a hack. His whole schtick is saying controversial crap to stir up emotions. He has no credibility. The funniest part is how he will kiss his guests ass when they're on his show, then run them down later. He's a joke. Fits right in at ESPN.
 
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That UM fans should complain about Boren and genuflect to RR on the grounds mentioned above is the height of hypocrisy.

Coaches are totally unrestrained in their movements - other than by specific contract clauses that they negotiate. RR not only agreed to one - he is now trying to renege on it.

Coaches even switch to rival schools.(Rick Pitino, Nick Saban, Bo Schembechler), except they do it for ever larger contracts.

Players on the other hand are subject to specific rules levied by the NCAA that limit their movement and to which they must agree in order to play CFB (on a team whose coach is making 7 figures). Boren must sit for a year and to play at the school of his choice must sacrifice his very scholarship.

HTM would place further restrictions because his school of choice is a rivalry school. And I get it. I would be a hater too. Moving to UM would be a clear exception to the "Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye Rule."

But this is happening to UM - not OSU.

So pop open another bag o dicks and chow down.
 
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USA Today: Ohio State transfer raises bar for 'turncoats'

Also mentions Johnny Damon, Jerry Rice, Roy Williams, Rick Pitono, and Jackie Robinson. Not bad company, if you ask me...

Ohio State transfer raises bar for 'turncoats'

Seldom do offensive linemen make big news, but Justin Boren?s decision to transfer from Michigan to Ohio State has managed to kick that already-epic college football rivalry up a notch.

This is like Ronald Reagan moving into the Kremlin during the Cold War.
The Columbus Dispatch (which on its website gleefully has a day-counter that tracks how long it's been since Michigan has beaten OSU in football) quotes Ohio State football historian Jack Park as saying that to have a football player flip-flop between the archenemy campuses is nearly unprecedented.

And the last such switch Park identifies had extremely extenuating circumstances: Buckeyes J.T. White and Howard Yerges went off to fight World War II and then played for Michigan upon their return, on the Wolverines? 1947 national championship team.

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jlb1705;1148444; said:
True, but he was an alumnus and coached on Woody's staff.
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I took the article to mean 'turncoats' in the sense of jumping from one side of a rivalry *directly* to another.

Yes, Bo was a coach under WWH, but he coached at Miami before he went to tsun.
 
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