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Pony Excess (Dec 11. 9 PM)

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    • [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwtX-4fXOyk"]YouTube - "Pony Excess" - ESPN 30 for 30 Trailer (SMU Football, NCAA Death Penalty)[/ame]

    Well after the Heisman (Prom Queen) Trophy Presentation on Sat this Documentary airs. I can't wait to see it.

    I have enjoyed the documentaries in the 30 for 30 series. I have only seen a few but they have been good. Winning Time, The U, Marcus Dupree, and the 2 Escobars were good.

    Kind of ironic that this will be on right after Cam Newton wins.:)

    I would like to see a 30 for 30 about the fab 5 and the scandal involved. Starting with Michigan winning the national title up to Tractor Traylor, ending with what brought them down.
     
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    zwem;1829645; said:
    Kind of ironic that this will be on right after Cam Newton wins.:)

    I would like to see a 30 for 30 about the fab 5 and the scandal involved.
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    I thought the same thing about Newton, and I too would like to see one on the Fab Five who cost OSU a trip to the Final Four.

    The Pony Express was nuts. They rose quickly and crashed even faster. Only in the last couple years has SMU shown signs of getting back on their feet, winning a bowl last season and reaching their conference title game this year.
     
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    A fascinating story, this should be good. Of course they'll be all to quick to tiptoe around ESPN wonk Craig James, but hopefully they'll get into the meat of it. Another interesting thing I hope they address is the # of programs (like certain ones in the SEC) who have avoided the death penalty solely for the reason that the NCAA saw how it gutted SMU, and they didn't want that happening to their cash cow programs.

    A lot of people forget Hayden Fry coached there...I wonder if they got Bobby Collins to talk? For that matter I wonder if Fry will talk...he apparently has long believed that his release from SMU was because boosters wanted to set up the slush fund.
     
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    Are there any older generation BP'ers that remember this team? Were they as good as advertised?

    I've seen old highlights of great games of the 1980's - but I can't remember any amazing SMU victories.

    I think its nuts a team can be that dominant but not even play in their own stadium. I've read during the early to mid 80's - they were a more popular draw than the Dallas Cowboys.
     
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    BigWoof31;1829692; said:
    Are there any older generation BP'ers that remember this team? Were they as good as advertised?

    I've seen old highlights of great games of the 1980's - but I can't remember any amazing SMU victories.

    I think its nuts a team can be that dominant but not even play in their own stadium. I've read during the early to mid 80's - they were a more popular draw than the Dallas Cowboys.
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    I remember the team, and they were pretty damn good for a 4 year stretch when they went 41-5-1. The games I remember most were both bowls...the crazy loss to BYU in the Holiday Bowl in 80 and the much ballyhooed offensive game of the century pitting Dan Marino and Pitt vs. Eric Dickerson in the 83 Cotton Bowl...which ended up 7-3 :lol:

    They had a lot of trouble with Texas but whupped pretty much everyone else during that stretch.
     
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    Bucklion;1829686; said:
    A fascinating story, this should be good. Of course they'll be all to quick to tiptoe around ESPN wonk Craig James, but hopefully they'll get into the meat of it.
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    Craig will be fine, they'll probably just lock him in a shed for an hour while it airs.
     
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    BigWoof31;1829692; said:
    Are there any older generation BP'ers that remember this team? Were they as good as advertised?
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    Well, you have to consider that was a completely different era with the lack of wide carriage cable, and if you were lucky enough to get ESPN they didn't have rights to much outside of UConn table tennis, Aussie football and the Worlds Strongest Man contest.

    However, it's not a bad week to have a bunch of Razorback guests.
     
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    BigWoof31;1829692; said:
    Are there any older generation BP'ers that remember this team? Were they as good as advertised?

    I've seen old highlights of great games of the 1980's - but I can't remember any amazing SMU victories.

    I think its nuts a team can be that dominant but not even play in their own stadium. I've read during the early to mid 80's - they were a more popular draw than the Dallas Cowboys.
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    Fitting that they played in Texas Stadium, but the Cowboys played in 3 straight NFC title games from 1980-82 so I'm not sure the Mustangs were MORE popular.

    Unfortunately, as others have noted, the kind of college football coverage we get today simply didn't exist back then. It was a treat to see a Buckeye game on TV and I lived in eastern Ohio. Sunday mornings you ran home from church in time to see the 30 minute recap shows of Ohio State, Notre Dame and Penn State. Pitt was usually on because we got Pitsburgh TV channels.

    In short, you saw SMU when they played in the Cotton Bowl, which was one of the big four at the time along with the Rose, Orange and Sugar. (The Fiesta was an also-ran bowl back then).
     
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    which brings up an interesting point about tv coverage, something some people have talked about here. how many games of osu actually were broadcast locally, regionally and nationally. it was not that long ago (mid 90s) that ohio state games early in the year would not be on tv. then you had a time before that were it seemed like they were on tv a handful of times a year. back then one national game a week was the norm.


    major, major greenies to anyone who can assemble a historical osu schedule indicating local, regional and national tv coverage history. (i will also note the notoriety of the game is/was built around that national tv audience in a historical context)
     
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    Dryden;1829746; said:
    Well, you have to consider that was a completely different era with the lack of wide carriage cable, and if you were lucky enough to get ESPN they didn't have rights to much outside of UConn table tennis, Aussie football and the Worlds Strongest Man contest.

    However, it's not a bad week to have a bunch of Razorback guests.
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    You're really gonna leave out professional bowling? :shake:
     
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    jimotis4heisman said:
    which brings up an interesting point about tv coverage, something some people have talked about here. how many games of osu actually were broadcast locally, regionally and nationally. it was not that long ago (mid 90s) that ohio state games early in the year would not be on tv. then you had a time before that were it seemed like they were on tv a handful of times a year. back then one national game a week was the norm.


    major, major greenies to anyone who can assemble a historical osu schedule indicating local, regional and national tv coverage history. (i will also note the notoriety of the game is/was built around that national tv audience in a historical context)
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    Hell....I can remember being excited that every 2002 game was on TV.
     
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    jimotis4heisman;1830064; said:
    which brings up an interesting point about tv coverage, something some people have talked about here. how many games of osu actually were broadcast locally, regionally and nationally. it was not that long ago (mid 90s) that ohio state games early in the year would not be on tv. then you had a time before that were it seemed like they were on tv a handful of times a year. back then one national game a week was the norm.


    major, major greenies to anyone who can assemble a historical osu schedule indicating local, regional and national tv coverage history. (i will also note the notoriety of the game is/was built around that national tv audience in a historical context)
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    Page 14 of this pdf has all of the televised games from 1990-2009.

    Official.site.pdf

    The last non-televised game was at Minny in 1997.
     
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    BB73;1830493; said:
    Page 14 of this pdf has all of the televised games from 1990-2009.

    Official.site.pdf

    The last non-televised game was at Minny in 1997.
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    hmm could swear i watched that game on tv....for some reason I was thinking the last game not on was the 97 bowling green game where wiley returned a ko for a td....wbns was late from a commercail break and missed the td entirely. listened on my way to watch randy moss and marshall destroy kent st...
     
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    BB73 said:
    Page 14 of this pdf has all of the televised games from 1990-2009.

    Official.site.pdf

    The last non-televised game was at Minny in 1997.
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    90-6 including bowl game
    91-9 including bowl game
    92-10- including bowl game
    93-8 including bowl game
    94-7 including bowl game
    95-13 including bowl game
    96-12 including bowl game
    97-12 including bowl game
    and on and on



    pretty amazing to think that 18 years ago only half the games were on tv.
     
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