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they aren't burning couches from inside their houses... they're burning those filthy flea ridden things that have been sitting out on the porch...

i'm not condoning it, but... i was there for the 'riots' after Penn State in '98, and all i saw was someone throw an empty beer can at a Penn State team bus... the only fires i saw were the ones people were cooking dinner over...

as Cinci said, riots are tradition at Ohio State, my parents were there in '68 after The Game, where they carried the goalpost to the State house lawn and made Woody give a speech...

as has been stated numerous times, it's not the students as much as it is the very unsavory element that lives within minutes of campus...
 
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Food for thought.

It benefits the police and the FD to embelish the facts. If they make a big deal out of some small fires, then they have the publics backing to go in next time and deal with the situation without their hands being tied.

I am not saying that they are setting it up to go in and kick some ass next time but...

It is not right to burn stuff in the street, but people like to make a big deal out of things. It sells papers.
 
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lvbuckeye;604748; said:
as Cinci said, riots are tradition at Ohio State, my parents were there in '68 after The Game, where they carried the goalpost to the State house lawn and made Woody give a speech...

as has been stated numerous times, it's not the students as much as it is the very unsavory element that lives within minutes of campus...
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In 61 it was students... lots and lots of students, and led by the band... they were organized... well, aren't they always? and we followed the piper like rats and/or kids.

If, as some have suggested, it's now outsiders and not students, then things have improved.
 
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In 61 it was students... lots and lots of students, and led by the band... they were organized... well, aren't they always? and we followed the piper like rats and/or kids.

If, as some have suggested, it's now outsiders and not students, then things have improved.
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i don't know about 'improved,' but in '02, after the smoke cleared (literally) it turned out that 90% of the arrestees were NOT students at Ohio State...
 
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cincibuck;604962; said:
In 61 it was students... lots and lots of students, and led by the band... they were organized... well, aren't they always? and we followed the piper like rats and/or kids.

If, as some have suggested, it's now outsiders and not students, then things have improved.
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In 1961, you were talking about a specific sort of organized protest. Also, the fact is that, at least academically speaking, OSU's admitting far few morons than it did even 15 years ago. No dobut some OSU students are still acting like imbeciles, but they're not the only ones and, I believe, are not even in the majority.
 
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Firefighters urge tougher penalties for postgame blazes
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COLUMBUS, Ohio ? A firefighters union called Wednesday for tougher penalties on people who torch couches, cars and trash bins near the Ohio State University campus after a football victory.
Columbus Fire Fighters Union Local 67 wrote lawmakers urging them to make starting such blazes a felony.
?The burning of trash, couches and cars in the name of sportsmanship and celebration near OSU campus has to end,? the union wrote. ?We do not expect to be put in danger just to be a sideshow at someone?s victory celebration.?
About 40 fires were reported near the campus Saturday night and early Sunday in the aftermath of the top-ranked Buckeyes? 24-7 win at then-No. 2 Texas. Police arrested 17 people, charging five with arson and the rest with disorderly conduct and alcohol-related offenses.
 
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Penn State starts incident report line for fans

From CDT Staff Reports

Penn State Intercollegiate Athletics has announced the addition of the "Beaver Stadium Lot Line,'' a new phone line that fans can call to report incidents that require either police or parking attendant assistance in the lots surrounding the stadium before, during and after home games.
Beaver Stadium Lot Line, accessed by dialing 814.867.FANS, will be available on all Penn State football home dates beginning at 8 a.m. and running one hour following the game's conclusion.
Complete information on the Beaver Stadium Lot Line and all Penn State Football game day details can be found within the Game Day Central content of Penn State Athletics' official website, http://www.gopsusports.com.
A limited number of tickets remain for the Youngstown State and Temple (Nov. 11) games in Beaver Stadium. Single game tickets can be purchased at www.GoPSUsports.com, or by calling 865-5555 or 800-863-3336 weekdays from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Student ticket lottery set for Ohio State game
Effective immediately through noon Monday, full-time Penn State students can go to GoPSUsports.com and register for a lottery that will result in an opportunity to purchase a ticket for Penn State's Big Ten opener at Ohio State on Sept. 23.
Complete registration details and a sign-up form can be accessed via the "Ohio State Student Tickets" tile on the site's home page, or by visiting this link: http://www.gopsusports.com/osuform.cfm
The application process is available exclusively on-line. Students may enter the lottery only one time.
Students who participate and come out on the positive end of the random lottery selection will be contacted by 9 p.m. Monday with instructions on how to purchase tickets.
Tickets are $59 and must be picked up at Ohio Stadium in Columbus on Sept. 23 before the 3:30 p.m. kickoff. There is a limit of one (1) ticket per student. A valid Penn State student ID is required at pick-up.
All full-time Penn State students (12 or more credits) are eligible to register for the randomly assigned tickets and because of the lottery format, all applications will have an equal chance of being selected, regardless of when the student submits the on-line application. Penn State Athletics will confirm eligibility of winners and notify them via e-mail on Monday evening.
The random selection of a number will be made from all student applications received prior to the posted deadline. This will serve as the starting point and first accepted application. Tickets will then be awarded in sequential order beginning with that number until all tickets are awarded. Five percent of the total tickets made available by Ohio State will be offered to students, the same percentage normally distributed to Penn State students for Nittany Lion away games.
 
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I think it's fair to point out that, according to this NBC4 article, only two OSU students were arrested last Saturday night. The off-campus area attracts a lot of lowlifes and a lot of kids from other schools that come to Columbus on football Saturdays to party.

Peters was one of two Ohio State students who was charged with setting fires after the football team's win over Texas on Saturday night. Only Peters was charged with arson, which is a felony.
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I got arrested and prosecuted "to the full extent of the law" for much less. I say throw the book at them. Not only does it hurt tOSU, but it also hurts the level-headed fans by being lumped into the same category. (And what I did was a lot less severe, so I'd feel better if they didn't get off easily)
 
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The off-campus area attracts a lot of lowlifes and a lot of kids from other schools that come to Columbus on football Saturdays to party.
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Fan behavior is a problem and the students are part of it, but when you look at college football programs and the cities where they are located the demographics are interesting.

Lincoln, Norman, South Bend, Happy Valley, Ann Arbor - all relatively small towns. Ann Arbor is close to Detroit but not close to an inner city area comparable to the OSU campus.

Los Angeles and Miami themselves are much more diverse cities and the interest in CFB is diluted with other major sports (as is Detroit).

Columbus is almost unique among major CFB programs in its combination of large city, lack of other major sports programs, and campus location. Almost unique, because Austin is comparable in size to Cbus and has no other major sports teams, but I don't know anything about the relative location of the campus.

IMO that explains more than anything the fires and medium scale disruptions that break out from time to time. We burn sofas on streets that nobody cares about and where the residents are almost entirely low income or student renters.

It doesn't account for what I consider downright rude behavior near the stadium that I have personally witnessed more in Cbus than other cities. This behavior emanates from drunk students and it is a black eye. Even here I think you have to factor in campus size and tailgating atmosphere where we may again be unique except for Austin.
 
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I've read the whole thread. Tressell has raised the bar for the team. They win with class. It's time that the fans rise to the new example. I can write some off to kids being kids but it's getting old very fast.

I am also tired of hearing the excuse that it's not OSU students. I say BS. If they're your guest, you're responsible for bashing them over the head and saying don't be an idiot on my turf. There's a lot of students in the area, they can put a stop to the crap. Complacency and condoning this shit is not far removed from lighting the fire yourself.

Other universities don't have issues with people coming in to make their students look bad.

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Have these people already forgotten the deadly fire on campus just a few years ago?

Regardless of the value of the items being burned, fires in these areas are extremely dangerous. I'm tired of these idiots, students or no students, acting as if there are no consequences for their actions. Maybe they should all have to meet with the families of those young people that passed in the fire that occured not so long ago that it should be out of our memories.
 
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