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Replay Cameras on the Goal Line

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LoKyBuckeye

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Bad call led to Belichick's demand
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FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) - The replay is clear to the New England Patriots.

Carolina's Stephen Davis fumbled before reaching the goal line, but was credited with a touchdown. It gave the Panthers a 6-3 lead in Sunday's 27-17 win over New England, but the Patriots still might have led 3-0 had coach Bill Belichick decided to challenge the call.

Instead, he used the play Monday to renew his call for the NFL to put cameras at the ends of each goal line - similar to those placed on lines in tennis matches - to give replay officials an accurate view with which to judge challenges by coaches.

"It's been brought up many times, but the league refuses to do it," Belichick said. If implemented, "if you do challenge that play, then there's absolutely one look at it and that will tell you did the ball cross (the goal line) or didn't it cross it."

He wouldn't say if the NFL gave him a reason for not adding the cameras.

"I don't want to get involved in that," Belichick said. "Just talk to them. I'm sure they have an answer for everything."

Clubs vote on the instant replay format and "there has never been any consensus to use cameras for replay other than those of the televising network," AFC spokesman Steve Alic said in response to an e-mail.

The current system is in place through the 2008 season.

Belichick said he didn't have a good view of the play from the field and "I didn't think there was enough evidence to warrant the challenge."

He said he later viewed the coaches' tapes of the game and "I still don't think there is" but added, "I don't know whether it breaks the plane or not. It's pretty close."

His players disagreed Monday.

"Not even close," linebacker Monty Beisel said when asked if the ball had touched the plane of the goal line while Davis had possession.

"Obviously, he didn't score," linebacker Willie McGinest said, but "Bill makes the challenging decisions."

"No," defensive end Richard Seymour said. "He didn't get in."

Seymour had a good view of the play and complained to officials on the field. He said he was told by one of them that Davis fumbled and an offensive lineman recovered in the end zone.

But, Seymour said, "they gave the touchdown to Stephen Davis, so something ain't right."

It came with 1:13 left in the first quarter so the Patriots still had plenty of time left to win the game. But 12 penalties and poor play on special teams and in the running game hurt. Even if the play had been challenged and the call overturned, Belichick said the Panthers still would have a second down inside the 1-yard line.

"Make no mistake about it," Seymour said. "That wasn't the reason that we lost that football game."

Still, on Monday, Belichick spent a large part of his 20-minute meeting with reporters discussing it.

Head coaches can check replays on stadium scoreboards and get input from assistants watching replays in their booth.

"Sometimes, it just depends on the angle," Belichick said. "Whatever camera angles the network feeds have, that's what you have to go by.

"The only way you're going to get a good, true evaluation of that play is to put a camera parallel to the goal line."
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Thus Sprach Bellichick "The only way you're going to get a good, true evaluation of that play is to put a camera parallel to the goal line."
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Now Bill is undoubtedly one smart cookie. However, he may want to rethink making his directions to the NFL for installing a replay camera a tad more precise ...

Parallel to the goal-line could be anywhere in the stadium (or on planet earth for that matter).

Now I know, and you know that Bill meant in-line with and along the same line as the goal line, pointing from one side of the field of play to the other.

Bill should know you can't take it for granted that the NFL would interpret his intent so clearly. -- You know what they say, give them an inch and they might take a mile.
 
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i like the camera idea, but there should be more than one camera on each endzone, it would be cool if they put a mini camera in each pylon facing the endzone that would give atleast 6 good views of the endzone on plays, it can be done
 
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Maybe you could have an RFID that sends a different signal if the ball is turned over after a fumble. Probably need one RFID signal for home and one for the away team. When ball is in hand the two RFIDs combine to make a unique signal...
 
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Barcode on the ball - no, what if the ball barely crosses while the barcode doesnt? too expensive.
RFID on the ball - no, same as above.
Camera's on pylons - no, only works if there is no obstructed view. if thats the case the regular cameras usually do the trick.
RFID on ball and players for fumble - no, if there is any question, that means theres a pig pile on the ball. how are you going to differentiate the different signals? too expensive.

Any other ideas you guys need shot down?
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Barcode on the ball - no, what if the ball barely crosses while the barcode doesnt? too expensive.
RFID on the ball - no, same as above.
Camera's on pylons - no, only works if there is no obstructed view. if thats the case the regular cameras usually do the trick.
RFID on ball and players for fumble - no, if there is any question, that means theres a pig pile on the ball. how are you going to differentiate the different signals? too expensive.

Any other ideas you guys need shot down?
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Actually you can hit a tag with RFID even if it's not pointing directly toward the target, so in theory a tag in the middle of the ball would still activate if part of the ball crossed the goalline...depending on the beam pattern of your transmitting and receiving antennas.

However I will shoot down my own idea...the furthest proven RFID technology can reach is about 10 feet max, so no go there.

Nice try BN27!
 
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Golferdow01 said:
Actually you can hit a tag with RFID even if it's not pointing directly toward the target, so in theory a tag in the middle of the ball would still activate if part of the ball crossed the goalline...depending on the beam pattern of your transmitting and receiving antennas.

However I will shoot down my own idea...the furthest proven RFID technology can reach is about 10 feet max, so no go there.

Nice try BN27!
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Idea's aren't the only thing I can shoot down.
 
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