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Game Thread Sugar Bowl: tOSU vs Arkansas, Tue, Jan 4th, 8:30 ET ESPN

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The "what ifs" are pointless for many reasons. You either make a play or you don't. If "could have" was the standard by which success was judged, I'd just declare Bama National Champions again because they could have beaten the teams that beat them if they had made more plays.

If the piggies receiver had made some catches early, then Tress would likely have continued his first half offensive play calling. The lead made him go to Tressel ball. If the hawgs had kept it tighter, then Tress may have kept to his original game plane. Woulda coulda shoulda.....that is nice and a way to spend the offseason to be sure. But only one team made a play when it had to, caught the pass when it had to, made the defensive play when it had to, and that was the team from Ohio.
 
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S-E-C! S-E-C! Can't keep up with that Ohio Speed!

:oh:

Gator and company will have to excuse me. I'm hearing all the "Arkansas wasn't an elite SEC team" nonsense. Laughable. Before the game all I heard was we'll never beat an SEC team. Now they don't belong in the conference? Bandwagon fans, to be sure.
 
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ScriptOhio;1851580; said:
ESPN jubilant at low BCS ratings

Predictably, BCS viewership fell for the Rose (14 percent), Fiesta (30 percent) and Orange (22 percent) Bowls from the games that played in the comparable time slots last year. The Sugar Bowl on Tuesday reversed the trend, with a 25 percent gain in Ohio State?s 31-26 win over Arkansas. Despite three out of four bowls losing viewers from last year, ESPN is jubilant. Each news release trumpets their place in cable history: the Rose?s audience was the third largest in all of cable history; the Orange?s was ESPN?s ?fourth-highest-rated and second-most-viewed non-N.F.L. game telecast,? and the Sugar?s was ?ESPN?s second-highest-rated and second-most-viewed non-N.F.L. game.? ESPN does not have to beat past broadcast numbers to succeed. It is ESPN. It is its own gigantic if insular universe, where the past (if it?s not its own) matters very little. Leagues and governing bodies rush to ESPN for its money and its myriad media platforms. After the Rose and Fiesta results were in, Burke Magnus, ESPN?s senior vice president for college sports, said in an interview: ?We?re pleased with these numbers, and with three more B.C.S. games to play we?ll stack up well and the broadcast-to-cable comparisons will not matter. There?s no broadcast-to-cable case to be made.?

Entire article: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/06/sports/ncaafootball/06sandomir.html?_r=1&ref=sports

I wonder if this had something to do with "Ohio's BCS school" playing in the Sugar Bowl last year? Nobody wanted to watch that curb stomping and tOSU puts eyes on the TV.
 
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exhawg;1851820; said:
I wonder if this had something to do with "Ohio's BCS school" playing in the Sugar Bowl last year? Nobody wanted to watch that curb stomping and tOSU puts eyes on the TV.


I think it's the latter. I'd be curious what happens to the bowl that tOSU is in compared to the same bowl in other years.
 
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exhawg;1851820; said:
I wonder if this had something to do with "Ohio's BCS school" playing in the Sugar Bowl last year? Nobody wanted to watch that curb stomping and tOSU puts eyes on the TV.
Absolutely certainly the case - examples from the article ...

?ESPN?s Fiesta Bowl viewership of 10.8 million exceeded the 9.3 million for the 2009 Sugar Bowl (Virginia Tech 20, Cincinnati 7), which Fox carried in the same prime-time New Year?s Day slot.

and

?This year?s Rose Bowl attracted more viewers than the 2008 version on ABC (U.S.C. 49, Illinois 17, the most lopsided Rose since 1984), which drew only 19 million. Only 2 of this year?s 35 bowl games are not carried by the ESPN group of networks.

Match-ups are absolutely critical to viewership.
 
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Coqui;1851825; said:
I think it's the latter. I'd be curious what happens to the bowl that tOSU is in compared to the same bowl in other years.

I'm pretty sure those numbers have popped up on here before and there's almost universally a net gain in viewer ship when Ohio State plays in a bowl over a previous year with no Buckeyes.
 
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Tlangs;1851737; said:
speaking of the dropsies...anyone remember the timing of Ohrian Johnson's dropped int that hit him square in the numbers. My memory is a little hazy but I think it was late in the fourth.

My recollection, from the nosebleed section, was that it didn't hit him in the numbers but was actually coming at him pretty low. Shoulda caught it, but it wasn't exactly EASY either.
 
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Bill Lucas;1852141; said:
It's my first video posted so be gentle.

tex+cobb.jpg


BEND OVER!
 
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Mackenstein;1851223; said:
And, for the several knuckleheads who posted we 'cheap-shotted' Heyward- It ain't illegal to hit a d-lieman below the waist if he's not engaged with another defensive player,,, a la chop block. The announcers did not make a big deal out of it because there was none to make.

OSU_Buckguy;1851451; said:
good point. after all, it's not as though the guy who "cheap-shotted" heyward hasn't already been caught executing illegal blocks that appear to be more about injuring an opponent than clearing a play.

YouTube - Marcel Dareus got blocked dirty with no call.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPBQycImw0"]YouTube - Cheapshot by Wade Grayson on Cameron Heyward[/ame]
 
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Gatorubet;1851807; said:
The "what ifs" are pointless for many reasons. You either make a play or you don't. If "could have" was the standard by which success was judged, I'd just declare Bama National Champions again because they could have beaten the teams that beat them if they had made more plays.

If the piggies receiver had made some catches early, then Tress would likely have continued his first half offensive play calling. The lead made him go to Tressel ball. If the hawgs had kept it tighter, then Tress may have kept to his original game plane. Woulda coulda shoulda.....that is nice and a way to spend the offseason to be sure. But only one team made a play when it had to, caught the pass when it had to, made the defensive play when it had to, and that was the team from Ohio.

That's a high quality post, especially the point about Tresselball.

Of course, Gator spends so much time on BP that a certain level of Buckeye understanding was bound to sink in after a while. :biggrin:
 
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