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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

Ted Ginn 4th WR taken in 2007 Draft??

I don't know what this person was smoking thinking that Ginn would be taken after Meachem and Bowe, but I want some of it. I realize that their thinking may be that he hurt his draft status because of his injury limiting what he could do workout-wise at the combine and Pro Day, but come on, pull up the tapes of these guys and see who impresses you most. Ginn will be the 2nd WR taken, although how could you not love going to a playoff team in the Chargers and playing with Gates and Tomlinson. Imagine him in that offense?? He would put up sick numbers.

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Big Papa;788360; said:
I don't know what this person was smoking thinking that Ginn would be taken after Meachem and Bowe, but I want some of it. I realize that their thinking may be that he hurt his draft status because of his injury limiting what he could do workout-wise at the combine and Pro Day, but come on, pull up the tapes of these guys and see who impresses you most. Ginn will be the 2nd WR taken, although how could you not love going to a playoff team in the Chargers and playing with Gates and Tomlinson. Imagine him in that offense?? He would put up sick numbers.

Link To Crack Smoking Mock Draft
This isn't "pull up the tapes" season....it's "workout without pads, helmets and cleats" season. Teddy may slip to the bottom of the first round if his foot doesn't heal up pretty soon, and he may slip even if his foot does heal up pretty soon. One thing is for certain about the NFL draft, the draft position of the WR's will have little to do with how the players perform in the league. I don't care how high he goes in the draft, I would rather see him slip to the bottom of the first round....that's where most of the good teams draft.
 
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FindlayBucks;788453; said:
This isn't "pull up the tapes" season....it's "workout without pads, helmets and cleats" season. Teddy may slip to the bottom of the first round if his foot doesn't heal up pretty soon, and he may slip even if his foot does heal up pretty soon. One thing is for certain about the NFL draft, the draft position of the WR's will have little to do with how the players perform in the league. I don't care how high he goes in the draft, I would rather see him slip to the bottom of the first round....that's where most of the good teams draft.
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FindlayBucks;788484; said:
yeah, but the Dolphins blow :tongue2:
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But seriously, he would get a ton of playing time, and the Fins haven't had a year with a healthy Culpepper.
 
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FindlayBucks;788453; said:
This isn't "pull up the tapes" season....it's "workout without pads, helmets and cleats" season. Teddy may slip to the bottom of the first round if his foot doesn't heal up pretty soon, and he may slip even if his foot does heal up pretty soon. One thing is for certain about the NFL draft, the draft position of the WR's will have little to do with how the players perform in the league. I don't care how high he goes in the draft, I would rather see him slip to the bottom of the first round....that's where most of the good teams draft.

What makes you say that this is not a "pull up the tapes" season? I have read several articles talking about how the combine may have outlived it's usefulness, and that actual game performance is far more important. I don't buy into the workout crap. I don't believe many of the potential gm's looking to draft a burner WR that has made big plays in big games and can be the next Devin Hester return guy, the x-factor for whoever drafts him, are going to look at another guy who ran a 4.4 at the combine and made some catches at his Pro Day, but had a college career that was not even close to the one Teddy had and say "this is the guy". Teddy is a guy who can make an immediate impact, not something the other WR's other than CJ can do. I do agree with you on one thing, that it would be nicer to see him with a better team, but I still want to see him get the respect he deserves and get drafted in the first 15 picks.
 
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Big Papa;788617; said:
What makes you say that this is not a "pull up the tapes" season? I have read several articles talking about how the combine may have outlived it's usefulness, and that actual game performance is far more important. I don't buy into the workout crap. I don't believe many of the potential gm's looking to draft a burner WR that has made big plays in big games and can be the next Devin Hester return guy, the x-factor for whoever drafts him, are going to look at another guy who ran a 4.4 at the combine and made some catches at his Pro Day, but had a college career that was not even close to the one Teddy had and say "this is the guy". Teddy is a guy who can make an immediate impact, not something the other WR's other than CJ can do. I do agree with you on one thing, that it would be nicer to see him with a better team, but I still want to see him get the respect he deserves and get drafted in the first 15 picks.
I didn't say I bought into the workout crap, either.....but there is quite a bit of evidence that NFL GM's do occasionally buy into it. Roy Hall is hoping his numbers are impressive enough to raise his stock in the draft.

My point wasn't that Teddy isn't as good as those other receivers because he didn't work out and they did, it was that for all the analysts who are spending their weeks evaluating these receivers Teddy isn't doing anything. It's Pro-Day season, so that is the basis for changes in their draft predictions.

This crap is the same every year....they'll remember what kind of game changer Teddy is before the draft.....don't expect so much out of the "experts"- they're usually full of shit.
 
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CPD

* Ginn, who missed the NFL scouting combine and Ohio State's pro day while recovering from a foot sprain suffered in the national title game, plans to run for scouts at Ohio State on April 11 and April 16, Tressel said. And Jamario O'Neal, who has been working out with Ginn, told Tressel he saw Ginn run a 4.37 40 time.
"That means Teddy was in a good jog, at least," Tressel joked.
 
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Dispatch

Notebook: Ginn getting up to speed after injury

Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:38 AM
By Tim May


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


Ted Ginn Jr. is scheduled to run for NFL coaches and scouts April 11 at Ohio State, coach Jim Tressel said yesterday. Ginn, a receiver/kick returner who is expected to be taken in the first round of the NFL draft April 28, has been recovering from a sprained foot suffered in the Buckeyes' loss to Florida in the national-championship game Jan. 8. The injury occurred during the end zone celebration with teammates after he returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown.

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ABJ

NFL scouts to watch Ginn on field April 11

Two teams to also view wide receiver April 16

By Marla Ridenour

Beacon Journal sportswriter

COLUMBUS - Junior flanker/kick returner Ted Ginn Jr. will work out for NFL scouts April 11 at Ohio State, coach Jim Tressel said Tuesday.
Tressel said he thought two teams also would put Ginn through the paces April 16.
A projected top-15 pick, Ginn sprained his left foot celebrating his 93-yard kickoff return for a touchdown in the BCS National Championship Game. He was not able to participate in drills at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis or at OSU's pro day March 10. He did not run at pro day in 2006 because of a hamstring injury.

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Pheasant;793029; said:
I didn't say I bought into the workout crap, either.....but there is quite a bit of evidence that NFL GM's do occasionally buy into it. Roy Hall is hoping his numbers are impressive enough to raise his stock in the draft.

My point wasn't that Teddy isn't as good as those other receivers because he didn't work out and they did, it was that for all the analysts who are spending their weeks evaluating these receivers Teddy isn't doing anything. It's Pro-Day season, so that is the basis for changes in their draft predictions.

This crap is the same every year....they'll remember what kind of game changer Teddy is before the draft.....don't expect so much out of the "experts"- they're usually full of shit.

I gotcha, sorry for the misunderstanding. In that regard I think you make a good point. Analysts and Prognosticators are looking at workouts and combines more than how they produced in the actual games. That's why the majority of the time their "projections" are incorrect.
 
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