#18 South Florida 21, #5 West Virginia 13 (Final)

[Dryden]

Please tell me you guys saw the faggy male SF cheerleaders with pom poms with about 52 seconds left in the game.

3 hours and 174 posts into the thread for a game that may have decided both the Big East and one half of the national title game, and you finally chime in to comment on USF's male cheerleaders?

Homo.

 

[Saw31]

if i wasnt sitting here sipping a bud watchin the game this game word force me into drinking, heavily. i mean this garbage would make me put saw to shame...

Gonna need to do like six shots and many 'o beers tonight for that to happen...:p


And, nice job guys. Friday night. At home. Sitting at the computer. Losers... Good Lord, don't you people go out and do anything?

Anyway, Pat White = No Heisman. Steve Slaton = No Heisman. R-Rod = Hot Seat for a week in Morgantown....Don't get me wrong. I think all these guys are good, but ya can't lay eggs against a team no one really knows about yet, on primetime. USF to the BCS? I'm liking their chances after seeing their defense...

 

[ysubuck]

I'm not sure about either team. I honestly think they are both mediocre Big East teams and I believe that Ohio State beats both by two touchdowns at least. They might be the best in the Big East, but it doesn't look like that's saying much now.

Good Lord, did WVU even practice this week? And Pat White? He couldn't throw a party!!!!

Slaton laid a BIG egg tonight.

Rich Rodriguez looked confused for most of the game.

South Florida didn't impress me as being good as much as WVU looking like dogshit.

That's it for the mighty Big East talk for awhile I guess.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

Dispatch

College football notebook: South Florida tops West Virginia again
Grothe, solid defense help Bulls knock off No. 5 Mountaineers
Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:22 AM



Associated Press

CHRIS O'MEARA Associated Press
South Florida's Matt Grothe tries to shake a tackle attempt by West Virginia's Mortty Ivy.



No. 18 South Florida is not only basking in the national spotlight, the Bulls are thriving in it.
Matt Grothe upstaged West Virginia standouts Pat White and Steve Slaton for the second straight year, leading the rapidly rising Bulls to a 21-13 victory over the mistake-prone, fifth-ranked Mountaineers last night.
Grothe scrambled to avoid a sack before throwing a 55-yard touchdown pass to Carlton Mitchell, and Ben Moffitt returned one of his two interceptions 26 yards for a TD to lead a stellar defensive performance in the Big East opener.

Continued.....

 

[mooktarr]

I'm not sure about either team. I honestly think they are both mediocre Big East teams and I believe that Ohio State beats both by two touchdowns at least. They might be the best in the Big East, but it doesn't look like that's saying much now.

Good Lord, did WVU even practice this week? And Pat White? He couldn't throw a party!!!!

Slaton laid a BIG egg tonight.

Rich Rodriguez looked confused for most of the game.

South Florida didn't impress me as being good as much as WVU looking like dogshit.

That's it for the mighty Big East talk for awhile I guess.

You must have watched a different game than I did. West Va. has a good team. They just got smothered by a very good defense. Both teams are among the best of the big east. That doesn't mean that the whole conference is as good as people thought though.

 

[sandgk]

You must have watched a different game than I did. West Va. has a good team. They just got smothered by a very good defense. Both teams are among the best of the big east. That doesn't mean that the whole conference is as good as people thought though.

If these two are among the best teams in the Big East then it does mean that the conference as a whole is not good enough for either team to be well ranked, or, truthfully, ranked at all.
SFU's D was pretty good in stymieing the 'Eers rushing attack in the first half - but their offense was largely inefficient and very sloppy. Half a team does not make for a good team.
We did get the answer to the Pat White question in this game though. Can White perform well if he is forced to pass? Answer - not that well.

 

[ysubuck]

I watched the whole game and I saw a totally unprepared WVU team. Bad throws, bad snaps, fumbled hand offs. Like I said, it didn't even look like they practiced this week.

Heck, the announcers even said that the back up QB came into the game having not warmed up at all. While White was getting looked at he (the back up QB) didn't even have his helmet on.

The WVU coaching staff should take a lot of heat for not getting their team ready to play.

I'm not sure what to make of South FLA, like I said, because WVU looked so bad last night. Who knows whether or not they're any good? I wouldn't be surprised to see South FLA turn around and get beat next week by FLA Atlantic or whoever they play.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

In expecting this, we all mentioned how garden-variety bad WVU's defense is.

Keeping that in mind, I don't believe that South Florida will win the Big East.

The Bulls offense scored a total of 14 points on a defense that we all agreed was semi-competent at best. Their QB, Grothe, is going to lose them a game they should win at some point.

The Bulls are good. I like the Bulls. They were the better team in this game. But there are better teams in the Big East.

 

[Jaxbuck]

In expecting this, we all mentioned how garden-variety bad WVU's defense is.

Keeping that in mind, I don't believe that South Florida will win the Big East.

The Bulls offense scored a total of 14 points on a defense that we all agreed was semi-competent at best. Their QB, Grothe, is going to lose them a game they should win at some point.

The Bulls are good. I like the Bulls. They were the better team in this game. But there are better teams in the Big East.

After the little exchange I had with WVholt I was really wanting to say the WVU defense looked better than I thought. I just can't honestly say it.

Grothe is a nice young QB but he made some horrific, unforced throws into double and triple coverage. A good offense will score 21+ on WVU all by themselves with consistency imo.

The USF offense is nowhere near the same caliber as its defense. I would call it pedestrian at best. They are a solid fairly well balanced team just like UC and Rutgers. I respect all 3 of those teams and if they continue to develop then the BE will be very tough in the near future.

UL and WVU OTOH, I have zero respect for. Its the John L Smith syndrome. Teams that are scheme oriented are never as good as the gaudy numbers they put up on patsies, and are not well balanced. They are poor fundamental teams, don't play well on defense, tackle, have solid special teams or anything else that solid-in-all-three-phases, well disciplined teams do.

Scheme teams(Houston back in the day, UL, WVU etc) are always exposed once they play a well coached, equally talented team.

 

[mooktarr]

If these two are among the best teams in the Big East then it does mean that the conference as a whole is not good enough for either team to be well ranked, or, truthfully, ranked at all.
SFU's D was pretty good in stymieing the 'Eers rushing attack in the first half - but their offense was largely inefficient and very sloppy. Half a team does not make for a good team.
We did get the answer to the Pat White question in this game though. Can White perform well if he is forced to pass? Answer - not that well.

The conference question is yet to be determined. Just how good is it? Since we are in the first half of the season and teams are still trying to /improving then we must wait. There are question about teams in regards to changes in the lines for example and other positions and experience. Is that why the SF defense blew apart the O line? Only time will tell.
Rutgers is now the team to beat in the Big east. JMO.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Holy shit.....if you want to see the perfect example of a fanbase that can't handle winning (and the losing that eventually comes with it), go over to the WVU scout board.

WVU fans are lunatics.

 

[NFBuck]

Holy shit.....if you want to see the perfect example of a fanbase that can't handle winning (and the losing that eventually comes with it), go over to the WVU scout board.

WVU fans are lunatics.

It is hilarious over there. The same people that were ready to hang themselves when RichRod was supposedly heading to 'Bama are now saying he's a "coordinator" at best. I generally think most scout boards are primarily inhabited by the dregs of each fanbase, but that shit is ridiculous. WVU wasn't even a blip until Rodriguez took over. Get a grip.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I had to go back 10 pages to find the threads about how great they were before the game.

 

[jwinslow]

If these two are among the best teams in the Big East then it does mean that the conference as a whole is not good enough for either team to be well ranked, or, truthfully, ranked at all.

USF is VT or PSU in different colors imo. Stifling defense, inept offense... at least from what I saw last night.

SFU's D was pretty good in stymieing the 'Eers rushing attack in the first half - but their offense was largely inefficient and very sloppy.

Second year in a row. Sign only of USF's D, or exposing WVU too?

Half a team does not make for a good team.

That's generous. I thought they were 1/4 of a team against MD... before the running game (aka run around defenders, not through them with that silly thing called blocking) imploded.

We did get the answer to the Pat White question in this game though. Can White perform well if he is forced to pass? Answer - not that well.

Same as the Maryland game, which featured a much lesser D. If you took away White's horizontal passing numbers, would he throw for 100 very often?

 

[sandgk]

jwins - I agree with most of what you said above, particularly the 1/2 vs. 1/4 generosity - though, calling a defense stifling that gives up 437 yards might also be generous :)