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Ohio State also suffered a 40-35 loss to Clemson in the Orange Bowl at the end of the 2013 season, marking the only time in Urban Meyer’s seven-year tenure that Ohio State lost back-to-back games.


I lay blame for the 21013 loss squarely on Urban. He left a clearly hurt Braxton Miller in on the last drive while the gunslinger, Kenny Guiton, rode the bench. :smash:
 
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I actually don’t have an issue with SEC officials doing this game.

Literally every game we bitch about B1G refs; so that leaves...the PAC-12? The Big 12? I’ve never watched a conference game in for either of those two and thought “oh wow if only Ohio state could play in a game officiated by a crew from this conference.”

This isn’t directed at anyone; maybe my head is just buried in the sand
 
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I'm the same. I watch a ton of football and peek in on a lot of the SEC games as well to see how "real" the SEC bias truly is. The SEC refs tend to let them play, allow more hand-fighting and contact between WR's and DB's down the field, and don't see the blatant, awful targeting disqualifications in the SEC as much. B1G seems to review too many plays that are obvious and don't even bother looking at the ones they should. I think this could potentially favor OSU vs. Clemson's talented WR group. Not sure as much about the OL getting away with holding Chase.
 
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I actually don’t have an issue with SEC officials doing this game.

Literally every game we bitch about B1G refs; so that leaves...the PAC-12? The Big 12? I’ve never watched a conference game in for either of those two and thought “oh wow if only Ohio state could play in a game officiated by a crew from this conference.”

This isn’t directed at anyone; maybe my head is just buried in the sand
I bet the Mountain West or Pac 12 or Ivy League or MAC could do it. Or if Big 10 was doing the other game ..not thinking it changes the game but just the perception ..but CFP ESPN don’t see bias in what they do. In HR training just before I retired we received training that if a customer perceived our actions as bias we were at fault and we needed to do everything to prevent it.
 
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I bet the Mountain West or Pac 12 or Ivy League or MAC could do it. Or if Big 10 was doing the other game ..not thinking it changes the game but just the perception ..but CFP ESPN don’t see bias in what they do. In HR training just before I retired we received training that if a customer perceived our actions as bias we were at fault and we needed to do everything to prevent it.

HR training I got they just told me I was expected to keep my pants on all day.
 
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What in the shit? How do you reward the worst refs with the title game?

Well the Big 12 refs are worse. I'm not super excited that the 2 semi's get southern based crews (ACC and SEC) and the other conferences playing in the games (BIG/Big 12) get shut out.

EDIT: Big 12 referees officiated the Fiesta Bowl against Miami and are directly responsible for all the "controversy" about our MNC.
 
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I'm the same. I watch a ton of football and peek in on a lot of the SEC games as well to see how "real" the SEC bias truly is. The SEC refs tend to let them play, allow more hand-fighting and contact between WR's and DB's down the field, and don't see the blatant, awful targeting disqualifications in the SEC as much. B1G seems to review too many plays that are obvious and don't even bother looking at the ones they should. I think this could potentially favor OSU vs. Clemson's talented WR group. Not sure as much about the OL getting away with holding Chase.

This.
 
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I'm the same. I watch a ton of football and peek in on a lot of the SEC games as well to see how "real" the SEC bias truly is. The SEC refs tend to let them play, allow more hand-fighting and contact between WR's and DB's down the field, and don't see the blatant, awful targeting disqualifications in the SEC as much. B1G seems to review too many plays that are obvious and don't even bother looking at the ones they should. I think this could potentially favor OSU vs. Clemson's talented WR group. Not sure as much about the OL getting away with holding Chase.

Does that help or hurt us? If they allow a ton of holding that doesn't bode well for Chase and our defensive line.
 
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