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Game Thread #2 Ohio State vs #3 Clemson, 8 pm ET, Dec 28th in Glendale, AZ

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dragurd said:
Oh are we talking about the jersey stretch on mack that herbstriet says was a great play? They did that all night even once in the redzone on a pass in the endzone they broke up.
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No you're talking about mack, which was blatant holding. I'm talking about a bomb along that same sideline in the other direction, I think to Place before the int.

The exact textbook PI happened that BN27 described, yet no call.
 
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lowbuck said:
Answered my own question... Player safety concerns allow booth to initiate a targeting review "in situations where an egregious action occurred and was missed by on-field officials"

Egregious enough that Lawrence didn't even get examined by the team docs?
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If it was player safety that the review booth official was concerned about they would have reviewed several tackles by Clemson’s interior line. Constantly grinding our guys into the ground after they were down. I saw #43 do it 4 to 5 times during the course of the game.
If Clemson’s AB had not laid there after the hit the targeting probably isn’t called. It is a poor official who looks at a reaction and bases his call on the after the play reaction. Technically it may have been the correct call but when you get another one on Fuller that was definitely blown you wonder what the guy in the booth is seeing. Really should have officials from a conference who does not have any affiliation with any of the teams in the playoffs. So be it if MAC, Sun Belt or AAC officials call the game. At least it takes the appearance of impropriety out of the equation.
 
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I am as proud of our guys right now as I have ever been. They physically dominated a defending champ on a long win streak. They showed no quit even when it was clear they were going to have to beat not only Clemson but the SEC crew as well. This game wasn’t stolen at any particular moment, but the field was so tilted that even one of the great teams in college football history could not overcome it. I’ve never seen it so blatant as it was.

Targeting: By rule the booth had no basis for initiating that review. They also totally ignored an off setting hands to the face. This changed things dramatically.

The fumble: worst review call ever. Not even close.

Dobbins: the defender drove his shoulder into Dobbins ankle after the tackle. Take a look at it. Why was he holding onto him for that long and why was he still driving forward?

Constant holding of our front seven and our receivers. Yeah we finally got a few calls but pretty much only to look less blatant and uneven.

And yes, we had a chance at the end. The only reason we did is because these outstanding kids fought like warriors the whole way. They deserved the win. They showed championship heart and championship talent. Yeah they made a few mistakes but they win a fair game easily. They lost because they could not overcome 10 cent southern fried Disney/sec horseshit officiating.

Fuck the NCAA for tolerating the corruption. Fuck them for selling out a bunch of college kids for money. And if nothing is said about this by the BIG fuck them as well.
 
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dragurd said:
I mean I'm sure we all remember this

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The rule was changed since then. That call and the Wade call are not the same.....that one was the defenseless player nonsense, and was incorrectly applied anyways.

If jwins is saying targeting gets called incorrectly at times, then sure. This wasn't one of those times. If Wade hits him with the facemask in the head while wrapping up the way he did...it shouldn't be called. He didn't. It was. Correctly.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
The circumstance is that he blasted the head of the QB with the top of his helmet.

Just....come on with that call. It sucked that we lost a super important player, but he broke the rule in the most text book way. There isn't a world where a QB gets hit like that and it's not targeting.
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In the new NFL and NCAA landscape, we ask defenders to lower their leverage, head to the side and tackle though with the shoulder.

Cute in theory and if you're tackling a dummy or training bag. But real players move... Fast. So in the process of lowering your leverage, the helmet will natrually drop a bit. So when the QB goes to protect himself and curls down, he has now taken what could be a perfectly legal hit, and given the defender a potential ejection based on his strike zone condensing. Unless you want these kids to start smoking people's knees?

It's just not easy and pragmatic when playing full speed. Sorry to burst your bubble. Rules should reflect responsible adherence to player safety while also understanding it is still a violent sport where you can't just legislate contact out of.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Show me. Burden of proof is in you.
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yes, let's pretend like there isn't a really long list of absurd targeting calls


Or that it was shocking when they reversed the expulsion for Fuller.

Or that the refs didn't apologize for ejecting Ward


It's a stupid rule. Any contact near the neck and you're possibly toast, no matter why it happened or the circumstances. It was a correctly enforced, absurdly powerful and immovable rule


That was not Wade's most vicious hit nor in the top 5 for most violent helmet strikes by buckeye tacklers tonight, but arbitrary rules are fun, so goodbye Wade and hello completely different ballgame.
 
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