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FKAGobucks877
The Most Power-Drunk
I'm a little amused by their "top 10" player list that is included in the link. Overall, I think it's a good write-up, and I definitely agree that Iowa (at Iowa City) will be our toughest early test. NC State and Cincy aren't pushovers, but Iowa could be for real. I like what Ferentz has done there.
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MightbeaBuck
with hat in hand
Fox Sports News preseason pick for OSU
Professional writers, don't try this at home
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Big_Ten/2004_Previews/Ohio_State_Preview.htm
It said some nice things about us, but I found it most interesting that the Buckeyes converted 8 of 15 fourth downs for a 40% conversion rate
Professional writers, don't try this at home
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Big_Ten/2004_Previews/Ohio_State_Preview.htm
It said some nice things about us, but I found it most interesting that the Buckeyes converted 8 of 15 fourth downs for a 40% conversion rate
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DEBuckeye
It ain't easy, bein' cheesy.
I agree. We can't overlook Cincy, Marshall or NCSU, but we should win all of these games. Iowa, at their place, will probably be the first real "test" of the season.
I suppose you could argue that Wisconsin will be, but we've got them at home, and I think we're better than they are (and were last year), we just didn't play a good game.
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BuckeyeSoldier
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you guys realize this is a duplicate thread?http://http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1861
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
I agree with the statements that Iowa will be very solid next season, in fact I probably favor them for the Big Ten title at this point. If we can go into Iowa City and beat them next season, we will play for the national title. All other tests are at home, we simply do not lose in the Horseshoe under Jim Tressel.
You can quote me on that.
You can quote me on that.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
I hope this isn't a repeat of a previous thread (I searched and didn't see anything obvious.) Someone named GoBlue dropped in to lay some trash talk on the table regarding The Game next year. It turned into a name calling brawl, but I thought of some things to compare:
QBs... if we look at arm alone I give the edge to Henne. I'm assuming that by the time he reaches Columbus he will have developed some touch to go along with his ability to throw the deep ball. Smith remains a puzzle to me. One game he looks mediocre (Penn State, 1st half Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State) and the next he looks like the best QB in the Big 10 (2nd half Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan) But I love the fact that, unlike Henne, he can also beat you with his feet. Let's call it even.
RBs... I hope that Chris Wells is all that the site seems to think he will be. Hart remains one of the best backs in the Big 10. Granted, OSU has hammered him twice, but that's a very special defense we're talking about.
Pittman still has a lot to prove to me. It seems to me that he likes to dance instead of just hitting the hole, he doesn't seem to get much YAC. Mo Wells didn't impress either and Haw seems stuck in the dog house. I give Hart the nod and hope that C. Wells tips the scales back OSU's way.
Receivers... Manningham had a remarkable freshman year, yet I think Frost proved his equal in The Game. Hamby's injury turned out to be a small factor with the way Tyree took up the blocking and Frost the receiving. Call it even, these are two good big receivers.
Breaston vs Ginn. Both have something to prove in what will likely be both their final years. I'm convinced that Teddy spent the year with his mind more on his dad's health than on catching the football. Breaston has not been much of a factor in the last two games, but the talent is there. Bass looks good also. Call it even, but I still think Ginn is the bigger threat as a game breaker on the pass, the punt or the kickoff.
I'm assuming that Holmes in gone. So maybe Gonzo takes his slot. The potential to not skip a beat at this position is certainly there. Ginn has great hands on the other side and Roy Hall seems to be getting better with each game. If the Bucks come back with a consistent running game we won't notice the departure of Holmes. I call it even at worst.
O-line. We loose Mangold. For three straight years he's anchored that center spot. Still it looks like we've got a lot of 'Dozers lined up and more in the pipeline. Michigan seems to have size and strength back, but these guys spent so much time lying on the ground trying to get injury timeouts so that IVLloyd would have more time to figure out how to get out of his latest predicament that I question their durability. All jests aside, these are two schools that draw the big hogs and I see no reason to suspect that either will fall far behind next year. IMO, Even.
Kickers... Let's face it, we've been very, very spoiled in the Tressel years. Punters who could drop the ball deep, not giving up the touchback and placekickers who could be counted on from 40+ and to get the ball into the end zone on kickoffs... I can't help but think we would've had another NC or two in the Cooper years if he'd ever had the kicking game that Tressel has brought in... Rivas may look like the Michelin Man, but he gives the Wolverines a kicker who can get the ball into the end zone and is farily consistent from 30+ (and a good pooch kicker for those rare situations where it's needed... wasn't his fault we drove 88 yards to win.). Right now I give Michigan the edge, but I can't imagine a coach like Tressel, who has made his living on the kicking game, leaving that part of the cupboard bare.
Defense... this scares me. This was a very special set of linebackers. You don't get to see a linebacker as good as Hawk very often, though we've sure been blessed with Katzenmoyer and Wilhelm. But when you put him with Schlegel and Carpenter... well, you can just forget running on that group. Good as they were, the LBs were made all the more effective because of Pitcock, Kudla and Green getting enough pressure from a four man front that the LBs could be used in all sorts of coverage and blitz packages. Those are some huge holes to fill. Laurinaitus played a solid game against Michigan, but I wouldn't compare him to Carpenter yet. We kept that front seven in till the very end of all but a few games, so I'm not sure what 's in the pipe line.
Michigan losses Gabe Watson and a big corner (is it Shazor, or am I thinking of last year?). Don't know about Watson. Two years in a row he looked good in the first half and then just seemed to quietly disappear as the game wore on. Was he ever in shape? Looks to me like both teams have some questions marks on this side of the ball.
D-backs, who stays seems to be a real concern. I like Youboty, but teams seemed to go at him this year. I thought he played hurt after the MSU game... anyone know? Loosing Whitner would be significant. He was a real playmaker and he put the hammer on everybody, receivers, running backs, QBs. If we loose both we may see Ginn play some CB, 'cause I think we remain stacked at wide out.
Final analysis: seems to me like a question of who gets kids coached up first. I see it as another nail biter, but I like the edge OSU has at coach and in the Shoe.
What do the rest of you think?
QBs... if we look at arm alone I give the edge to Henne. I'm assuming that by the time he reaches Columbus he will have developed some touch to go along with his ability to throw the deep ball. Smith remains a puzzle to me. One game he looks mediocre (Penn State, 1st half Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State) and the next he looks like the best QB in the Big 10 (2nd half Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan) But I love the fact that, unlike Henne, he can also beat you with his feet. Let's call it even.
RBs... I hope that Chris Wells is all that the site seems to think he will be. Hart remains one of the best backs in the Big 10. Granted, OSU has hammered him twice, but that's a very special defense we're talking about.
Pittman still has a lot to prove to me. It seems to me that he likes to dance instead of just hitting the hole, he doesn't seem to get much YAC. Mo Wells didn't impress either and Haw seems stuck in the dog house. I give Hart the nod and hope that C. Wells tips the scales back OSU's way.
Receivers... Manningham had a remarkable freshman year, yet I think Frost proved his equal in The Game. Hamby's injury turned out to be a small factor with the way Tyree took up the blocking and Frost the receiving. Call it even, these are two good big receivers.
Breaston vs Ginn. Both have something to prove in what will likely be both their final years. I'm convinced that Teddy spent the year with his mind more on his dad's health than on catching the football. Breaston has not been much of a factor in the last two games, but the talent is there. Bass looks good also. Call it even, but I still think Ginn is the bigger threat as a game breaker on the pass, the punt or the kickoff.
I'm assuming that Holmes in gone. So maybe Gonzo takes his slot. The potential to not skip a beat at this position is certainly there. Ginn has great hands on the other side and Roy Hall seems to be getting better with each game. If the Bucks come back with a consistent running game we won't notice the departure of Holmes. I call it even at worst.
O-line. We loose Mangold. For three straight years he's anchored that center spot. Still it looks like we've got a lot of 'Dozers lined up and more in the pipeline. Michigan seems to have size and strength back, but these guys spent so much time lying on the ground trying to get injury timeouts so that IVLloyd would have more time to figure out how to get out of his latest predicament that I question their durability. All jests aside, these are two schools that draw the big hogs and I see no reason to suspect that either will fall far behind next year. IMO, Even.
Kickers... Let's face it, we've been very, very spoiled in the Tressel years. Punters who could drop the ball deep, not giving up the touchback and placekickers who could be counted on from 40+ and to get the ball into the end zone on kickoffs... I can't help but think we would've had another NC or two in the Cooper years if he'd ever had the kicking game that Tressel has brought in... Rivas may look like the Michelin Man, but he gives the Wolverines a kicker who can get the ball into the end zone and is farily consistent from 30+ (and a good pooch kicker for those rare situations where it's needed... wasn't his fault we drove 88 yards to win.). Right now I give Michigan the edge, but I can't imagine a coach like Tressel, who has made his living on the kicking game, leaving that part of the cupboard bare.
Defense... this scares me. This was a very special set of linebackers. You don't get to see a linebacker as good as Hawk very often, though we've sure been blessed with Katzenmoyer and Wilhelm. But when you put him with Schlegel and Carpenter... well, you can just forget running on that group. Good as they were, the LBs were made all the more effective because of Pitcock, Kudla and Green getting enough pressure from a four man front that the LBs could be used in all sorts of coverage and blitz packages. Those are some huge holes to fill. Laurinaitus played a solid game against Michigan, but I wouldn't compare him to Carpenter yet. We kept that front seven in till the very end of all but a few games, so I'm not sure what 's in the pipe line.
Michigan losses Gabe Watson and a big corner (is it Shazor, or am I thinking of last year?). Don't know about Watson. Two years in a row he looked good in the first half and then just seemed to quietly disappear as the game wore on. Was he ever in shape? Looks to me like both teams have some questions marks on this side of the ball.
D-backs, who stays seems to be a real concern. I like Youboty, but teams seemed to go at him this year. I thought he played hurt after the MSU game... anyone know? Loosing Whitner would be significant. He was a real playmaker and he put the hammer on everybody, receivers, running backs, QBs. If we loose both we may see Ginn play some CB, 'cause I think we remain stacked at wide out.
Final analysis: seems to me like a question of who gets kids coached up first. I see it as another nail biter, but I like the edge OSU has at coach and in the Shoe.
What do the rest of you think?
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