2010 TSUN News offseason (football)

[BB73]

Stewart Mandel summarizes the timeline and speculates on the penalties.

SI.com

Infractions will hurt embattled Rodriguez more than Michigan​

Michigan has 90 days to respond to the allegations, after which it is expected to appear before the NCAA Committee on Infractions at its Aug. 13-14 meeting in Seattle. Based on the NCAA's stated timeline, the school will likely learn of its sanctions roughly two months later, around the same time we'll find out whether Rodriguez will finally produce a winning Big Ten football team in this, his third season.

Brandon was clear Tuesday that, "Rich Rodriguez is our football coach, and he will be our football coach [this fall]," but that was never really in question. Even if the school wanted to ax him today over these allegations, it would still need to wait until the NCAA process plays itself out or risk a wrongful termination suit like those of former Washington coach Rick Neuheisel and former Ohio State basketball coach Jim O'Brien.​

What remains to be seen is whether Rodriguez will still be the Wolverines' coach in 2011, a decision that figured to rest largely on how much progress his team demonstrates this fall but may now be made easier if the Committee on Infractions upholds these allegations. As per his contract, the school -- which already spent $2.5 million to help Rodriguez pay his infamous West Virginia buyout and is on the hook for another $2.5 million in annual salary through 2013 -- could fire him with cause for violating NCAA rules. There would be no buyout necessary this time.​

Michigan will likely endure notable but modest sanctions when all is said and done. There will likely be probation, docked scholarships and possibly some added staff restrictions. There's a stigma, but otherwise nothing a program like Michigan's can't withstand.​

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[ScriptOhio]

Re: Michigan will likely endure notable but modest sanctions when all is said and done. There will likely be probation, docked scholarships and possibly some added staff restrictions.

They could also prohibit them from going to a bowl game the next few years; however, when you aren't eligible anyway, that wouldn't actually be a penalty.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Bikey just doesn't quite live in reality, does he?

To be fair to Bike, they have won 8 games in two years. So he's not COMPLETELY wrong.

 

[NFBuck]

Stewart Mandel summarizes the timeline and speculates on the penalties.

SI.com

One of the crutches beav and his lemming are leaning on is that Dick wasn't fired yet, so there MUST have been no wrongdoing. Of course that ignores the buyout/wrongful termination angle. What a circus they have up there. Again, thank you Bill Martin, you magnificent sumbitch.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Possible NCAA punishment checklist for UM football:

1) Vacate League and or National Championships won during the period of infractions.

Nope, next

2) Ban on Bowl appearances.

They already have that his name is Rodriguez

3) Limit scholarships

They don't even carry a full 85 last I heard


So what exactly does the NCAA do to punish a program that doesn't go to Bowl games, doesn't carry the max number of scholarship players anyway and hasn't won shit?

Ban the University from firing the head coach for the next 10 years.

 

[Nicknam4]

NCAA: Michigan violated time rules

ANN ARBOR, Mich. - The NCAA accused Michigan of failing to comply with practice time rules under football coach Rich Rodriguez, who admitted making "mistakes" but will be back for a third try at bringing the program back into the national title hunt.
Incoming athletic director David Brandon disclosed the NCAA conclusions yesterday, but said there were no surprises. He expressed full support for his coach, who is 8-16 in two disappointing seasons.
"Rich Rodriguez is our football coach, and he will be our football coach next year," Brandon said.
In its notice of allegations, which Michigan received Monday, the NCAA said Rodriguez "failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance," and tracked neither what his staff was doing nor whether his players were following NCAA rules. It also said the athletics department failed to make sure its football program was complying with NCAA regulations.
Brandon said the department "clearly made mistakes," but "there was no charge of loss of institutional control" - an allegation that in previous cases has led to NCAA sanctions for other schools.
Michigan has 90 days to respond and will appear at an NCAA hearing on infractions in August.

The Columbus Dispatch

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Rich Rodriguez, who admitted making "mistakes" but will be back for a third try at bringing the program back into the national title hunt.

How about first trying to bring your team back from the bottom of the conference?

 

[Wingate1217]

Does anybody find it ironic that the wrong doing by Scum is already in evidence given the reports from the NCAA within a year of the reported incidents and that here we are several years later and the NCAA is still dickin' around with USC?

 

[Jaxbuck]

Does anybody find it ironic that the wrong doing by Scum is already in evidence given the reports from the NCAA within a year of the reported incidents and that here we are several years later and the NCAA is still dickin' around with USC?

I guess they suck at cheating too.

 

[Coqui]

Does anybody find it ironic that the wrong doing by Scum is already in evidence given the reports from the NCAA within a year of the reported incidents and that here we are several years later and the NCAA is still dickin' around with USC?

While unlikely, it's possible, the hammer on USC will be 50 times larger than the one going to fall on Michigan.

 

[tundra1]

Does anybody find it ironic that the wrong doing by Scum is already in evidence given the reports from the NCAA within a year of the reported incidents and that here we are several years later and the NCAA is still dickin' around with USC?

Not so ironic if you assume that the two coaches in question have very different mental capabilities. Then it makes perfect sense...

 

[jwinslow]

Graham & Angelique are two of a very small list of folks still respected by UM fans. They chimed in with these comments:

The Michigan Daily

At the NFL Scouting Combine here, former Wolverine defensive end Brandon Graham offered his outlook for Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez following a second straight losing season and last week’s announcement that, following a four-month investigation, the NCAA is alleging that the program has violated five NCAA regulations.

“After the season, we said that, ‘you can’t be up for so long, eventually you have to pay taxes,’ ” Graham said on Saturday. “That’s how we look at it until we get it back up. That’s what we’re going to do. I hope them boys get right next year. Because coach (Rich Rodriguez has) only got one more year — if they don’t do (anything). Because of the allegations, and then, if you have a bad year, then you’ve got to get someone new.”

'Victor's Rally' embarrassing for football program of U-M's stature | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Angelique S. Chengelis: Michigan football'Victor's Rally' embarrassing for football program of U-M's stature

It is nearly a week after the non-university-backed "Victor's Rally" was held at the Michigan Theater to support Michigan football coach Rich Rodriguez and the program, and my opinion hasn't changed.
Really? A Victor's Rally? In February, no less?
Does anyone else get the feeling the need for a rally almost sounds, well, desperate?
The last time I checked, the Michigan football program remains one of the most storied in the history of the sport. Has it been kicked around the last couple years? Yes. Has the winning tradition taken a shot? Hard to argue that -- an 8-16 record through two seasons, not to mention an NCAA investigation into rules violations, has proven that.

This is new territory for Michigan supporters, at least in the last 40 or so years, because they became accustomed to winning and going to bowl games and earning national rankings. Times have been tough lately, and there has been some fracturing in the Michigan family of former players, at least in terms of their perception of the direction in which the program is moving.
Unless I have missed something, however, I don't recall any public grousing about Rodriguez by former players -- not including those who have played under him the last two years, because that's another story -- who are not thrilled about the program's direction and its coach. Have they mentioned how much they hate seeing the program lose? Of course, but publicly dissing Rodriguez? Haven't heard it.

Three words that appeared on the Michigan Theater screen last Sunday said it all: "Detractors Not Allowed."
Talk about drawing a line in the sand. Those are threatening words, unreasonable and defensive words, words that challenge and draw resistance, not words that try to heal and bind.
Detractors not allowed.
In this effort to rally support for Rodriguez and the program, the rally could very well have had the uncalculated effect of digging deeper into the family rift. A rally is meant to encourage support, but the suggestion by those three little words was that, "OK, we're on this side, and if you don't like it even if you paid the dues on the football field and love Michigan football as much as anyone we don't want you."

Has Rodriguez taken his share of hits? Yes, and that comes with losing (and an NCAA investigation). Did Carr take his share of hits? Of course he did. And so did Moeller and Schembechler.
The point is, no one threw a rally for Moeller after that brutal loss to Colorado, and there wasn't a rally for Carr after the Wolverines lost the opener to Appalachian State, only to be followed by a blowout to Oregon.

 

[NFBuck]

Desperate times up north...

 

[Dryden]

Detractors not allowed.

Excellent. Finally, a new catch phrase out of AA. I was getting bored with their last two: "All In For Michigan" and "Get the door ... it's Domino's."

 

[NFBuck]

Excellent. Finally, a new catch phrase out of AA. I was getting bored with their last two: "All In For Michigan" and "Get the door ... it's Domino's."

You forgot "hold the rope".