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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I do not like to diss a senior but I think that this Ohio State team plays much better when Russell is at the point and Shannon Scott is on the bench. Shannon just does not seem to run the offense very well and he has not a very good shooter and that includes foul shooting. Also, sometimes he will get a defensive rebound and run down the court like a chicken with his head cut off and put up some wild shot or throw the ball away. He just does this too many times and he does not that seem to be learning from his mistakes.
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Dee-Liem
Disciplina in Civitatem
Ohio State is a strong 7-seed according to BracketMatrix.com. In fact, there are 3-4 Big Ten schools behind the Buckeyes.
But somehow Ohio State is on The Bubble, according to Jerry Palm (who seems to have some sort of vendetta against OSU in both CFB and MBB).
But somehow Ohio State is on The Bubble, according to Jerry Palm (who seems to have some sort of vendetta against OSU in both CFB and MBB).
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DZ83CK
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Well, it appears he has been stuck behind Loving and Tate. I wish Matta would find some more minutes for him, but we've seen before where some talented freshmen just have not been able to get off the bench due to more experienced players being ahead of them on the pecking order. William Buford for instance didn't play regularly as a freshman (even though he went on to average double-digits in points that season) until after Lighty got injured, clearly WB was talented enough to contribute but was not getting off the bench due to the more experienced players being ahead of him. Bates-Diop to me is somewhat similar, clearly he has talent and can contribute but Matta is content to play his more experienced players. I don't like it, but what can you do as a fan. Personally I would not play Sam Thompson 40 minutes or anything close to that, the guy has gone 3-21 from 3 over the course of 11 B1G games this season, and it's not like opposing teams are making it real hard for him to get open shots. Thompson is also limited in production aside from not being a shooter, doesn't contribute a lot in any other statistical category other than a modest points per 40 total.
My thinking is your team's upside is higher living with mistakes that KBD makes and anticipating improvement, as opposed to going back to playing Thompson 40 minutes when you know what you'll get and it's not all that great. I would like to see KBD getting at least 15-20 minutes per game (20 without Loving, 15 with Loving). I feel that the more the seniors play, the lower the upside of this team, and the more the freshmen play, the higher the upside. It can still be a team that makes a run in the tournament, but not without a heavy dose of freshman.
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MaxBuck
SoCal, Baby!
Jerry Palm is a dweeb. He has built his entire career around the circle-jerk that is the RPI.
Believe me, nobody who makes a difference takes Palm seriously. He's like the weird bachelor uncle you have to invite to Thanksgiving dinner, but once he's there everyone ignores him. Ken Pomeroy has the Buckeyes at #14 right now, which I think is about right. If the Bucks hold serve I'd expect them to be a 5- or 6-seed at worst, and if they finish second in the B1G tourney they'd probably move up to the 3-line.
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DZ83CK
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If they win out until the BTT title game, I'd say they will be a 4 or 5. OSU's resume is weaker this year than most, partly due to lacking a marquee nonconference win. Just not a lot of wins against tourney teams, which makes it difficult to move up the seed lines.
Historically, I believe Big Ten teams that have zero good nonconference victories and finish around second in the league regular season have ended up with a 6 seed.
Historically, I believe Big Ten teams that have zero good nonconference victories and finish around second in the league regular season have ended up with a 6 seed.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
What? As soft as the bubble is these days with 68 teams, I think OSU do as badly as finish the regular season sub .500 (3-4) and still get in. That would put them at 21-9 (10-8 in conference). They're in with that.
That aside, no way do they have to win "almost all" of their regular season games.
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DZ83CK
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I meant that they would need to win almost all to be a lock. Could bubble in with less, but nobody wants to be in that position. Right now they only have 3 wins against teams projected to make the field as an at-large by Joe Lunardi, and one of those he has as a #12 seed. You know how you miss the NCAA tournament? Having only 2 wins against tourney teams over the course of the season, and OSU barely has that right now and they only have one game left against a surefire tourney team (UW). Purdue and MSU may make it but are on some shaky ground, and UM is fading. OSU is likely to make it, but they could certainly play their way out by losing too many games the rest of the way.
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DZ83CK
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Wisconsin. But that is tangential to my main point that OSU's resume is very thin in terms of wins against NCAA tourney teams. And I believe that seeding and selection decisions are based off of who has the most & best quality wins. Listen, I fully expect OSU to make it. I'm saying their case right now isn't as strong as we'd like to think.
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MaxBuck
SoCal, Baby!
We're 14 in kenpom. We're 14 in Sagarin. We're 12 in BPI. We're 18-6, and 7-4 in a strong league. Our case right now is a hell of a lot stronger than you apparently would like to think.
Of course we need to stay on track. Any team wanting to get to the Dance can say the same thing. But your view that we're little more than a bubble team doesn't really have much to back it up.
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