Oh, I'm not comparing the two teams. But Texas A&M is top 25 by default.
Their wins are Northwestern State, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas, Kentucky, & S. Carolina. I wouldn't make any declarations about their abilities.
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Oh, I'm not comparing the two teams. But Texas A&M is top 25 by default.
Their wins are Northwestern State, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas, Kentucky, & S. Carolina. I wouldn't make any declarations about their abilities.
zincfinger
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Right, but the point isn't that Texas A&M is a great, or even good, team. The point is that if you're going to discount Taigovailoa's stats as having been accumulated against a weak schedule, consistency would seem to demand you do the same for Haskins.
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It clearly implied Texas A&M is a better team than PSU. I don't really care either way, my point was solely based on their schedule.
I wasn't comparing the two players performance at all. But if you want to, you'd have to look at defensive rating. Not AP or coaches poll. Penn State is better than TAMU in all passing defensive metrics.
But that has nothing to do with why I posted what I did. I was only speaking of TAMU's weak schedule and why they were ranked.
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TampaBuckeyes
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Yes. The next SEC team up mentality. Kentucky is a decent team, and I’d put them in with the Iowa’s and the Minnesota’s of the world. Penn states defense is in another level.
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IF they just play assignment football to a man, the Defense improves by at least 100 yards per game. That is huge when our Offense can improve by 100. 200 yard swing is tremendous and the confidence builder our entire staff needs to win this damn thing.
Nick is gone. It's heartbreaking to be honest but it happened. Get to the QB and Do. Your. Job.
Nick is gone. It's heartbreaking to be honest but it happened. Get to the QB and Do. Your. Job.
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ScriptOhio
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OHIO STATE'S OTHER DEFENSIVE PLAYERS MUST STEP UP FOLLOWING NICK BOSA'S DECISION TO FOCUS ON NFL
For the first two-and-a-half games of Ohio State’s 2018 season, Nick Bosa was arguably the best player in college football.
Unfortunately for the Buckeyes, two-and-a-half games was all Bosa’s third and final season at Ohio State would last.
Ohio State announced Tuesday that Bosa, who has been sidelined since suffering a core muscle injury in the Buckeyes’ third game of the season against TCU, made the decision this week to withdraw from school “in order to devote more time to his rehabilitation and training efforts” as he recovers from the surgery he underwent in September and prepares for the 2019 NFL draft.
For Bosa, it’s a sensible and unsurprising decision. Even with his injury, he’s still projected to be one of the top picks in next year’s draft, and he didn’t need to play another snap to make that happen. Withdrawing from school will allow Bosa to focus entirely upon his recovery, without risking further injury as an amateur football player, and once he’s fully healthy, to begin preparing for his pre-draft workouts for NFL teams.
For Ohio State, however, it’s a huge hit to a defense that has already been struggling without him.
Going into the 2018 season, Ohio State’s defensive line was considered to be one of the best, if not the best, in the country. Bosa paired with Chase Young to form perhaps the nation’s most fearsome duo of defensive ends, while Dre’Mont Jones and Robert Landers gave the Buckeyes a formidable tandem of defensive tackles. Jonathon Cooper, Jashon Cornell, Tyreke Smith and Tyler Friday were among those who added to the mix at defensive end, while Davon Hamilton, Haskell Garrett, Tommy Togiai and Taron Vincent were among those also in the mix at defensive tackle.
All of those other players are still on the team, and leave the Buckeyes with plenty of talent still on their defensive front. But there’s simply no replacing Bosa, a complete defensive end who was dominant as both a pass-rusher and a run-stopper.
Young and Jones still give the Buckeyes two of college football’s most talented defensive linemen, and both of them have had their moments of dominance this year. Jones has recorded 21 total tackles this season, including 8.5 tackles for loss and 5.5 sacks (as well as an interception returned for a touchdown), while Young has recorded 19 total tackles with eight tackles for loss and four sacks.
But with Cooper also out with an injury and Landers sidelined for most of the game this past weekend against Minnesota, the Buckeyes’ defensive line was clearly a shell of what it could have been. Their pass-rushing performance has dropped off in recent weeks, while they were particularly vulnerable to the inside run against the Gophers, allowing 178 rushing yards and two touchdowns on 33 attempts.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...following-nick-bosas-decision-to-focus-on-nfl
For the first two-and-a-half games of Ohio State’s 2018 season, Nick Bosa was arguably the best player in college football.
Unfortunately for the Buckeyes, two-and-a-half games was all Bosa’s third and final season at Ohio State would last.
Ohio State announced Tuesday that Bosa, who has been sidelined since suffering a core muscle injury in the Buckeyes’ third game of the season against TCU, made the decision this week to withdraw from school “in order to devote more time to his rehabilitation and training efforts” as he recovers from the surgery he underwent in September and prepares for the 2019 NFL draft.
For Bosa, it’s a sensible and unsurprising decision. Even with his injury, he’s still projected to be one of the top picks in next year’s draft, and he didn’t need to play another snap to make that happen. Withdrawing from school will allow Bosa to focus entirely upon his recovery, without risking further injury as an amateur football player, and once he’s fully healthy, to begin preparing for his pre-draft workouts for NFL teams.
For Ohio State, however, it’s a huge hit to a defense that has already been struggling without him.
Going into the 2018 season, Ohio State’s defensive line was considered to be one of the best, if not the best, in the country. Bosa paired with Chase Young to form perhaps the nation’s most fearsome duo of defensive ends, while Dre’Mont Jones and Robert Landers gave the Buckeyes a formidable tandem of defensive tackles. Jonathon Cooper, Jashon Cornell, Tyreke Smith and Tyler Friday were among those who added to the mix at defensive end, while Davon Hamilton, Haskell Garrett, Tommy Togiai and Taron Vincent were among those also in the mix at defensive tackle.
All of those other players are still on the team, and leave the Buckeyes with plenty of talent still on their defensive front. But there’s simply no replacing Bosa, a complete defensive end who was dominant as both a pass-rusher and a run-stopper.
Young and Jones still give the Buckeyes two of college football’s most talented defensive linemen, and both of them have had their moments of dominance this year. Jones has recorded 21 total tackles this season, including 8.5 tackles for loss and 5.5 sacks (as well as an interception returned for a touchdown), while Young has recorded 19 total tackles with eight tackles for loss and four sacks.
But with Cooper also out with an injury and Landers sidelined for most of the game this past weekend against Minnesota, the Buckeyes’ defensive line was clearly a shell of what it could have been. Their pass-rushing performance has dropped off in recent weeks, while they were particularly vulnerable to the inside run against the Gophers, allowing 178 rushing yards and two touchdowns on 33 attempts.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...following-nick-bosas-decision-to-focus-on-nfl
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ShowMeBuck
You know what? Chicken butt.
Personally I’d consider moving Dre’Mont outside more (especially once BB is healthy) and I’d give some young DTs the chance to shine. Screw it. Get the best 4 on the D Line as much as possible.
You’ve recruited well.
Play Togiai.
Play Garrett.
Play Vincent.
Just let some dogs rise up.
And if they bite as a puppy and all that.
You’ve recruited well.
Play Togiai.
Play Garrett.
Play Vincent.
Just let some dogs rise up.
And if they bite as a puppy and all that.
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Think we have to move Jones outside some...as stoked as I was on the prospect of Bosa, Young and Cooper at DE, I knew the depth was an issue at the position. One of the biggest concerns I had in past recruiting classes was that we only took Young in '16 to get Young to Columbus. Well, it worked and Young has had some amazing moments, but I'm not sure it was worth sacrificing the depth. That being said, I am hoping guys like Tyreke Smith and Tyler Friday keep coming along, and Jones can slide outside to let Togiai, Garrett and Vincent get their chance inside. The depth in solid is very good and hopefully we can make some adjustments and make it work. We can't realistically expect to replace Bosa, but we can't let the falloff be too drastic.
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
It's easy to forget that we're looking at kids growing up and since most of what we learn as humans is learnt by "experience" the kids will grow over a season if they are consistently healthy and get consistently coached up. Botttom line is these kids just need to get healthy and the sky is their limit. Now, will that happen this year? Don't know at this point but I'm hopeful that the "kids" will grow up some this Saturday.
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Bosa was so good that I think guys on defense were just watching him play and expecting him to make plays rather than trying themselves to make a play. This defense maybe needed him to not play so the kids could grow. Getting him back in November would have been "perfect' but it is what it is as Urban says.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
A LOOK AT OHIO STATE'S DEFENSIVE ENDS WITHOUT NICK BOSA
Two-hundred-twenty-five tackles, 80 tackles for loss, 43.5 sacks, eight passes defended, seven forced fumbles, two fumbles recoveries, two touchdowns, one interception and one national championship later, the Bosa legacy has finally concluded.
Exactly 2,367 days after Joey Bosa committed to Ohio State on April 23, 2012, Ohio State announced Nick Bosa’s collegiate career has ended and that his focus will turn to the NFL, once he recovers from the core muscle injury that he suffered during his team’s 40-28 win against TCU.
Now, both Bosa and the Buckeyes must move on.
Though there’s no doubt Bosa wishes he could spend his final season playing alongside his Ohio State teammates, it might be easier for Bosa than the Buckeyes. He’s a likely top-three selection in the 2019 NFL Draft who will be a multimillionaire at this point next year on an NFL team.
Ohio State, on the other hand, hopes to maintain its undefeated record without possibly the best player in college football. The group, led by Chase Young, has some players with upper-echelon talent, but the group doesn’t have loads of experience.
And though many have pegged Young as a future high first-round pick, the loss of Bosa stings the Buckeyes. After three games, Bosa had more tackles, tackles for loss and sacks than all of Ohio State’s other defensive ends combined.
Still, Urban Meyer gave the unit a fairly positive evaluation on Tuesday’s Big Ten coaches teleconference just a bit after the news of Bosa’s decision broke.
“I think they've played pretty good,” Meyer said. “Obviously, when you take one of the best players in college football out, then that's an issue. But overall, I think they've played pretty good.”
Last week, Urban Meyer said he saw room for improvement in Ohio State’s pass rush, which he called “average.”
“I think we need to get a little better,” Meyer said. “That ties in with our pass defense. Today was an excellent practice. To see guys like Tyreke (Smith) and Jashon (Cornell), we need more from him. I think, obviously Chase Young is a very good pass rusher and so is Dre'Mont (Jones). So, we just need a little bit more.”
No Bosa certainly damages a unit that, for years, has been viewed as one of the top position groups in college football, and there’s no way to fully replace him. But like Meyer said on the teleconference, the Buckeyes simply have to move on.
Meyer expects the same group of players who have filled in for Bosa the past month to step up the remainder of the season. So, let’s take a look at each of the five defensive ends who will be counted on to help soften the loss of Bosa.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...-ohio-states-defensive-ends-without-nick-bosa
Two-hundred-twenty-five tackles, 80 tackles for loss, 43.5 sacks, eight passes defended, seven forced fumbles, two fumbles recoveries, two touchdowns, one interception and one national championship later, the Bosa legacy has finally concluded.
Exactly 2,367 days after Joey Bosa committed to Ohio State on April 23, 2012, Ohio State announced Nick Bosa’s collegiate career has ended and that his focus will turn to the NFL, once he recovers from the core muscle injury that he suffered during his team’s 40-28 win against TCU.
Now, both Bosa and the Buckeyes must move on.
Though there’s no doubt Bosa wishes he could spend his final season playing alongside his Ohio State teammates, it might be easier for Bosa than the Buckeyes. He’s a likely top-three selection in the 2019 NFL Draft who will be a multimillionaire at this point next year on an NFL team.
Ohio State, on the other hand, hopes to maintain its undefeated record without possibly the best player in college football. The group, led by Chase Young, has some players with upper-echelon talent, but the group doesn’t have loads of experience.
And though many have pegged Young as a future high first-round pick, the loss of Bosa stings the Buckeyes. After three games, Bosa had more tackles, tackles for loss and sacks than all of Ohio State’s other defensive ends combined.
Still, Urban Meyer gave the unit a fairly positive evaluation on Tuesday’s Big Ten coaches teleconference just a bit after the news of Bosa’s decision broke.
“I think they've played pretty good,” Meyer said. “Obviously, when you take one of the best players in college football out, then that's an issue. But overall, I think they've played pretty good.”
Last week, Urban Meyer said he saw room for improvement in Ohio State’s pass rush, which he called “average.”
“I think we need to get a little better,” Meyer said. “That ties in with our pass defense. Today was an excellent practice. To see guys like Tyreke (Smith) and Jashon (Cornell), we need more from him. I think, obviously Chase Young is a very good pass rusher and so is Dre'Mont (Jones). So, we just need a little bit more.”
No Bosa certainly damages a unit that, for years, has been viewed as one of the top position groups in college football, and there’s no way to fully replace him. But like Meyer said on the teleconference, the Buckeyes simply have to move on.
Meyer expects the same group of players who have filled in for Bosa the past month to step up the remainder of the season. So, let’s take a look at each of the five defensive ends who will be counted on to help soften the loss of Bosa.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...-ohio-states-defensive-ends-without-nick-bosa
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