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One of these shows up at the Taos Airport a couple times a year. L39 Albatros
Beautiful, sexy as hell, Cold War Trainer/fighter.In cami of course! Buy one for $200-300K
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...WdlyZw?docId=859e9141877a4cc3a2262c06e1c5cfc2

Meant to post this a while ago.

British Spitfire planes to be dug up in Myanmar

YANGON, Myanmar (AP) ? Myanmar signed a deal with a British aviation enthusiast to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire fighter planes reportedly buried by the British almost 70 years ago.

Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall said earlier this year he had found the aircraft after years of searching and they were believed to be in excellent condition.

While details of their reported burial are obscure, Cundall has said they were shipped to the then-British colony called Burma near the end of the war and abandoned unused and in packing cases when they were not needed.

Aviation enthusiasts say only three dozen or so airworthy Spitfires still exist worldwide. The single-seat fighter planes were about 9.1 meters (30 feet) long with an 11.2-meter (37-foot) wingspan. The wings may not have been attached to the packed planes.

The British Embassy said Wednesday that the agreement was reached after discussions between Myanmar President Thein Sein and British Prime Minister David Cameron during his visit to Myanmar earlier this year.
 
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The F-4 Phantom, according to my insurance man who flew them in Vietnam, living proof that if you strapped big enough engines to a brick you could make it fly.
Correct. I watched F-4s launch nearly every day at Kunsan AB, Korea in the fall of '77 when I was there for a 3-month TDY. They took a while to get up to speed, but once they did they were fast as fuck...
 
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IIRC, no guns either, right? End of 'dog fighting' so no need for guns.

Yep missiles were to end "dog fighting" as they knew it...

they kinda forgot missiles don't do very good in close quarters combat
F-4 had air-to-air missiles, but also had a 20 mm Vulcan Gatling gun for in-close dogfighting. There was plenty of dogfighting in the Vietnam War...about 10% of F-4 kills in that war were by gun only.
 
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F-4 had air-to-air missiles, but also had a 20 mm Vulcan Gatling gun for in-close dogfighting. There was plenty of dogfighting in the Vietnam War...about 10% of F-4 kills in that war were by gun only.
Sorry I must have been mistaken... I had thought they originally didn't have a Gatling gun, atleast at the beginning of the war. I was aware of the a-a missiles but had made some assumptions on their effectiveness. I wasn't around when this was going on so maybe I misremembered or had some bad info.
 
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Sorry I must have been mistaken... I had thought they originally didn't have a Gatling gun, atleast at the beginning of the war. I was aware of the a-a missiles but had made some assumptions on their effectiveness. I wasn't around when this was going on so maybe I misremembered or had some bad info.

Nah, I think it was no gun at first, then they added wing mounted gun pods then later versions did have an internal cannon (maybe?). But I'm almost sure it was designed without one originally.
 
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